Would the Brits stain a walnut forend to match?

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Would the Brits stain a walnut forend to match?

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I got some wood and bits for a ( hoped for ) no faux sniper build.
I have a sporter no 4 maltby with a bobbed barrel, 22 inches.
So I am not messing up a nice rifle
Step one was nice wood.
Step 2 will be a criterion barrel.
Step 3 will be a reproduction no 32 scope , w/ mount and pads.
I saw a guy on Ebay selling a package deal.
I found the same guy on another board and we set up a direct deal eliminating ebay completely.
Nos handguards, buttstock and a newly made walnut forend. Along with all the bands from the front sight protector to the buttplate, . He even includes the sling , oiler and pull through.
I did the math several times, and while it was on the high end, it was everything in one stop.
Plus I could use my brother's PayPal. :)
I sold him a spare yugo m57 to cover a big chunk of it.
The forend is walnut. It came without any finish. And other than a touch with a file to the triggerguard area, it was a drop in fit.
The nos wood is only in need of storage grease / Cosmo. And will be good to go.
I have refinished lots of stocks in the past. But never new wood.
I have some excellent stain I plan to use. Then BLO.
Unless you guys think I should do all four pieces together.

Below are pics of the end result. I noticed the grooved hand guard in his listing on ebay. But forgot to specify that I would prefer it to smooth. Well he sent two sets of hand guards. One rear h g was grooved.
As part of the deal he included a brass buttplate.
Other extras were a spare upper band and a spare lower band with the sling swivel.
A spare front sight protector .3 front sight blades, and two rear sights, flip type. Though I knew it would include one of each.
And as noted in the Ebay listing the sling, oiler and pull through.
Along with three original boxes of parts.
10 front sight screws. And two boxes of the plates that hold the bolt release in place.
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The boxed extras.
The boxed extras.
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All the metal, with extras.
All the metal, with extras.
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The wood, yes he sent two sets of hg's
The wood, yes he sent two sets of hg's
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Comparison pic.
Comparison pic.
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A test fit.
A test fit.
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Looks like to be an interesting project! Nice work. Keep ua informed please.
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I've never seen stained walnut. I have seen stained beech/birch, but not for any kind of exact match, just to make it "Hand grenade close"!
On the other hand I've seen many non color matching rifles.
I think it goes to "There was a war on we got 'em working & out the door to the troops as fast as possible" kind of thing, they had no concept of the fact they were building a future antique & collectable!

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Here is how I tackle different coloured woodwork.

These were sporters with the wood all cut back and sanded to death. Luckily, the metalwork was untouched.
New fore stocks were made for them on a wood duplicator and they were fitted with original NOS butts and handguards.
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Walnut fore stocks and butts, beech handguards.

Here you see them with one coat of RLO as a test to see how they would darken with just oil.
It is a light coloured walnut on the fore stocks that does darken a little, but they need help to blend well with the other pieces..

All pieces were treated with Fiebing's oil based leather dye, 'Dark walnut'.
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Maybe not all the exact same shade, but they do have a common colour, so to me, look just fine.

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I am with englishman_ca on this!

Did the same with my No. 4 that had different types of wood and did the Fiebings Leather Dye / alcohol to "match" the color
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Thanks guys. I am not sure if my hand guards are walnut, though I think they may be.
I plan on rubbing some blo inside the forestock and see how it goes from there. I am a long way from ready to mount the wood at this point.
I just don't want to be scrambling for tips when I am.
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