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1909 Mauser Carbine in .30-06

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1909 Mauser Carbine in .30-06

#1 Post by Arminius » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:25 pm

Some years ago, I had a BEAUTY of an 1909 Carbine. Really nice rifle.

It was in .30-06, which I thought was nice, as I had lots of ammo and reloading components and dies for it.

Shot like cra*. Not groups, but patterns.

Disgusted, I sold it. I was a fool: i should have kept the action, beautiful, ultra smooth, and that nice boltstop!

My question:

can it be, that these rifles were not rebarreled, but simply reamed a new chamber? So a .308 bullet would be only slightly engaged, and therefore give less velocity and terrible accuracy?

Thanks to all, have a nice day, Hermann
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Re: 1909 Mauser Carbine in .30-06

#2 Post by Reverend Mauser » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:21 pm

As I understand, a lot of importers simply reamed the chamber exactly as you say, but a standard .308 bullet does not engage the rifling well due to a smaller diameter.

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Re: 1909 Mauser Carbine in .30-06

#3 Post by Rex_in_OTZ » Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:02 pm

I had one of the reamed 1909's and the .308" slugs do rattle down the bore ment for .311" bullets.
So if you loaded your .311-06 you could milk some accuracy from it. :dance:

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Re: 1909 Mauser Carbine in .30-06

#4 Post by Arminius » Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:43 am

Rex_in_OTZ wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:02 pm
I had one of the reamed 1909's and the .308" slugs do rattle down the bore ment for .311" bullets.
So if you loaded your .311-06 you could milk some accuracy from it. :dance:
Yes, I had that idea also.

Take care that the neck area is wide enough, so as to not squeeze the case neck with the larger bullets!

Be cautious!

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Re: 1909 Mauser Carbine in .30-06

#5 Post by Rex_in_OTZ » Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:30 am

For some reason I keep ending up with Argentines, I was on a AK kick and traded off a few rifles including the 1909 that shot patterns in order to scratch that itch.
Had an Egyptian made Maddi AKM for a few years.
Sold it to pay some medical bills.
About 7 years ago I was given a 1891 sporter.
From the looks the work was done in 1974.
I have a honist 7.65 Arg cal rifle now.

7.7, .303, 7.62 (Russian), 7.65 and I think another all use the .311'ish slugs.

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Re: 1909 Mauser Carbine in .30-06

#6 Post by damorealan696 » Sat Apr 06, 2019 3:09 am

NO EXPERT. IIRC the Argies came in but. ammo was scarce. Some dealers reamed the chamber and stamped the receiver ring with. .30

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Re: 1909 Mauser Carbine in .30-06

#7 Post by LEP » Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:54 am

They were commonly re-chambered to what, around here, is called 31-06. Unfortunately, I've seen some that weren't marked as such. It used the 06 case with a .311/.312 bullet to get any accuracy.

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Re: 1909 Mauser Carbine in .30-06

#8 Post by Arminius » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:12 am

While it´s so simple to change an ´06 case to 7.65 Argentine!

But -06 is easier to sell in the US of A ...

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