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New To Me, Ishapore 2A1

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Re: New To Me, Ishapore 2A1

#16 Post by Tommy Atkins » Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:42 am

The Parker Hale 5A is still to be found, but its not inexpensive!

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Re: New To Me, Ishapore 2A1

#17 Post by boltactionbill » Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:31 pm

So I've seen, wow! You can set it up with a scope for significantly less. - Bill

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Re: New To Me, Ishapore 2A1

#18 Post by echo1 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:38 am

I've got a couple, a '65 & a '67. I like them.

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One was pre-Bubbad that I worked over a little. It's salvageable, but doesn't bother me the way it's set up, zero at 500 yards, 5 rounds. I've put a Blackhawk lace on cheek riser since this picture was taken.
I call it the Khyber Pass regulator.

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I'd like peeps and would put a Parker on, but it'd likely cost more than both rifles did. I've got a ton of GOOD Indian NATO, in bandoleers on strippers and some in cellophane packs.

I got the ammo first for something else to eat. PAX

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#19 Post by boltactionbill » Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:11 pm

So after taking the 2A1 to the range and cleaning it afterwards I came to realize this rifle is unlike any other milsurp I've ever owned. Putting 60 some odd rounds through it she cleaned up with 4 patches! 4 patches, I'm still in disbelief. How unused is this barrel that it should clean up this easy? Another thing I noticed is the total lack of deformation of the spent brass. The brass comes out of this chamber in better condition than my P14 and those look full length resized! Is it because of the high grade of the brass in the military NATO rounds I'm using or is this rifle really that tight? I waited years to find one of these in this condition but I'm at a loss trying to figure this out about this rifle. Maybe some of you have an explanation? After all it is a 51 year old used milsurp. - Bill

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Re: New To Me, Ishapore 2A1

#20 Post by Tommy Atkins » Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:36 pm

Check the "silver bullets" aren't cupro-nickle.
"Nickeling" is a big problem because you can't get it out once it gets in! That could "fake" a fast cleaned bore.
Frankly all of my Enfields are referred to as "Copper mines" because they trap so much jacket metal!
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#21 Post by boltactionbill » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:25 pm

All of my other service rifles are a lifetime of cleaning before I see a clean patch. Tommy I'm not sure of the bullets makeup. I can tell you that the silver is a thin plating that can be scraped off relatively easily showing copper underneath. I've used a lot of these in my M1A and it really likes them. I've always been able to clean that completely with no plating buildup showing in the barrel. The 2A1 hated them and patterned instead of grouping. I only put out 4 of them and gave up. I'll use the Lake City in the 2A1 which it really liked and I have plenty of. It's a good thing I started with the LC or I might have freaked out over the lack of accuracy. - Bill

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Re: New To Me, Ishapore 2A1

#22 Post by Spavac » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:14 am

I picked one up a few years ago. 1967 vintage, matching #s, kinda neglected but otherwise good condition. Sat in the rack at a local pawn shop for a long time (didn't have a magazine). Heard that they were having a sale to clear out their slow movers. Showed up as the door was unlocked and made a bee-line to the rack and grabbed the Ishapore. Three other like minded guys followed me in BUT I got there first ;-)! IIRC OTD price was just over $130 (maybe $135). Here's a pic after my refurb-
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I did have to shell out $50 for an aftermarket magazine from Numrich. It needs to be "distressed" a bit to match the rest of the gun but I've yet to do anything about that. I also picked up a canvas sling to add to the look of the era.
It's a good shooter but I have to admit, it spends a lot of time in the gun locker :-(.
My eyes aren't what they used to be either. I think tho, I'm just going to keep the issue iron sights.
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Re: New To Me, Ishapore 2A1

#23 Post by steamer » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:23 pm

@Spavac Nice looking Ishapore. Even with the price of the mag added in, that's what people were paying for them 10-11 years ago when they were more readily available. I'd say it was definitely worth the wait.

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Re: New To Me, Ishapore 2A1

#24 Post by boltactionbill » Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:35 pm

Spavac wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:14 am
I picked one up a few years ago. 1967 vintage, matching #s, kinda neglected but otherwise good condition. Sat in the rack at a local pawn shop for a long time (didn't have a magazine). Heard that they were having a sale to clear out their slow movers. Showed up as the door was unlocked and made a bee-line to the rack and grabbed the Ishapore. Three other like minded guys followed me in BUT I got there first ;-)! IIRC OTD price was just over $130 (maybe $135). Here's a pic after my refurb-
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I did have to shell out $50 for an aftermarket magazine from Numrich. It needs to be "distressed" a bit to match the rest of the gun but I've yet to do anything about that. I also picked up a canvas sling to add to the look of the era.
It's a good shooter but I have to admit, it spends a lot of time in the gun locker :-(.
My eyes aren't what they used to be either. I think tho, I'm just going to keep the issue iron sights.
Spavac

Wow that was a steal! Nice clean looking Ishapore. How did you manage to de-brown the stock. It looks really nice with some color to it. Mine looks more like a uniform dark chocolate color.
Have you shot it? How did it do? I have to admit mine is a sweet shooter. Light recoil too. Not what I expected as 7.62 is much hotter than 303. $180! Boy I would fill a rack with them if I could find some at that price.

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Re: New To Me, Ishapore 2A1

#25 Post by Spavac » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:01 pm

Ya, I feel pretty fortunate too! One of my nicer looking relics. RE: the stock, it was a hot mess when I got it. Kind of a lacquer / varnish like finish. Stripped it all off, steamed out most of the dents/dings then smoothed out what was left with abrasive paper. The buttstock and forestock didn't match well after my treatments so I applied some brown leather dye to try match them up better. I knew that there would be a reddish hue but in honesty, thought it would be a little less "RED". The final treatment was a hand rubbed linseed oil/mineral spirits/beeswax mix (1:1:1) that I use on most of my stock restorations. It's not as durable as a poly product but adds authenticity since it's similar to what was used "back in the day"!
I haven't shot it much but she is a good shooter. Pretty heavy tho (better for reducing felt recoil), the soldiers lugging these rifles around had to be more than a little bit stronger after their enlistment ended!

Thanks for the comments.

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