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Model 11 barrel date code - Photos added

#1 Post by neolithic1 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:57 am

I have a Remington Model 11 with the ordnance wheel and FJA on the butt. The date code for the barrel reads A M Anchor. I'm assuming that this is a miss stamped March '43 code. Any other interpretations?
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#2 Post by Tom D » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:57 pm

Don't know if it's an error or not. But I can tell you I have seen several Model 11as made during WWII that only had the one M for the date code. One of these guns was a brand new in the box riot gun that had never been issued.

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#3 Post by neolithic1 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:44 pm

This one wasn't in the box, but it is in great shape. It wasn't fired many times if at all. It causes a little dilemma for me. I didn't have a gun that I haven't fired, until this came around. I don't want to fire it.

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#4 Post by neolithic1 » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:23 pm

Here's some photos...

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And the barrel date code...

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Re: Model 11 barrel date code - Photos added

#5 Post by steamer » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:07 am

neolithic1 wrote:
Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:57 am
Any other interpretations?
One possibility is that you have March 1921 barrel on your gun. Does your barrel also have the "U.S. <bomb> MILITARY FINISH" stamp. If not, it may be a non-military replacement barrel.

I inherited a US marked Remington Sportsman (Model 11) from my Grandfather. Both the receiver and the barrel are US marked. If you don't mind, I would love to know the exact length of your barrel.

Please take a look at this chart plus the information on this page.
https://www.remingtonsociety.org/manufacture-dates/

It took me a while to disassemble and clean mine, but it had years of build-up and really needed a good cleaning. Now, it functions quite well and I really love shooting it on occasion. If it were mine, I would certainly want to show it off and give it a chance to be active again. (Heck, just use some mini-shells if you want to be cautious.)

Lastly, very beautiful gun. Thanks for sharing.

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#6 Post by neolithic1 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:10 pm

Sorry that I didn't include the US flaming bomb marks on the barrel earlier. Here it is...

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The barrel measures 19 inches from the muzzle to the front of the receiver.

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#7 Post by steamer » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:35 pm

Have you tried determining the year of manufacture from the serial number? Does anyone know what years "FJA" was an inspector?
Here's some discussion that might help on the serial numbers.
http://www.remingtonsociety.org/forums/ ... hp?t=23182

Now I'm curious too. :D

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#8 Post by neolithic1 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:58 pm

The serial number on the receiver puts it in the middle of the first block of WW II contract guns... per Bruce Canfield's Combat Shotguns book.

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#9 Post by neolithic1 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:36 pm

I can't seem to find where I saw it, but I read somewhere that FJA was inspector from '42 to '44.

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#10 Post by neolithic1 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:49 pm


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#11 Post by VMASCIOP2000 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:43 am

Great looking shotgun. Are they considered safe to shoot with today's ammo? 2 3/4" I mean.
I was R.L.E.V.M. on our old forum.

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#12 Post by neolithic1 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:36 pm

Good for anything 2 3/4" or shorter... per the marking on the barrel. I've got Browning A 5's from the same period that I shoot pretty frequently... and one willed to me by my grandfather that uses the 2 9/16 inch paper shells. I do still use it, but not as frequently. The shells are getting harder and harder to find.

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#13 Post by Tom D » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:54 pm

Pull the barrel off and see if the serial number on it matches the receiver.

Like I said above, I've seen several of these guns with only the 1 "M" year date code instead of the double stamped "M". IIRC, most or all of them were early 1943 guns with a B month code for Jan. or an A month code for March.

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#14 Post by neolithic1 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:26 pm

This is my mom holding the 16 gauge A 5 that my grandfather willed me. Photo was made about 79 years ago... Gun is 88 years old.

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#15 Post by Polock » Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:52 pm

Probably preaching to the choir, but for those new to the Rem 11 (or any other long-recoil operated shotgun), please remember that there are adjustments that need to be made to shoot lower powered shells (dove/quail/Walmart promo ammo) and higher powered loads. You tube has videos on how to adjust/arrange the recoil bushings/springs.
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