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 Post subject: CETME or C93?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:16 am 
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Location: Southern California
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Trying to decide between purchasing a CETME or a C93 as my next semi-auto rifle. I have shot the C93 and like it, but I have a AR-15 which I feel so-so about. I built it from a kit, but I would rather shoot my Enfield or Mosin before shooting the AR so not sure if I want another .223 semi-auto. I have not shot a CETME, but I just recently purchased a FR-8 so it would be nice to have the matching set. I do have a lot of .30 rifles, the Enfield, several Mosins, and a couple of Mausers, so do I really want another .30 caliber rifle? So any suggestions on what you would purchase, and no, not both, I only need one of them, there are so many other rifles to buy.


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 Post subject: Re: CETME or C93?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:25 am 
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Both. I am building a hk clone. I am building because I had a cetme and I liked it. I sold the cetme but had a cetme kit so using it to build a hkg3CLONE.
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 Post subject: Re: CETME or C93?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:07 am 
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I really like the Cetme. However, I purchased a Century HK91 clone (very similar to the Cetme) and it is now my favoite semiautomatic. I have looked at the HK93 and what bothers me about them is the magazine. I wish they weren't so expensive.


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 Post subject: Re: CETME or C93?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:29 am 
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I have a very poor report regarding the C93 made by Century. I bought mine in california, and took it to the range with commercial rounds. I had failures almost 2 out of 5 rounds. I stopped shooting mine once it started to shred brass. Some of the brass I did collect were stretched out like an hourglass and others would get the bases ripped off by the extractor. When I bought it I checked the bolt to bolt carrier gap with a feeler guage and found mine to be at the bottom of spec, but once I shot it I didnt have any gap at all. If you want to read more on this read the 1000 or more articles (google c93 bolt gap) where others talk about it. Now I called century to see if the would repair it. They said since the rifle was sold to me almost a year after it was manufactured that they didnt cover it under manufacturers warranty. WHAT? So...I sent it to a very reputable gunsmith that mainly works on HK rifles and he was shocked at what he found. The barrel was loose, and the end of the barrel where the chamber is was hand spun on a belt grinder and sized down where it could be pushed into the trunnion without a press (I have the barrel sitting on my desk at home to prove it). I forget how much pressure he told me is required to press the barrel in, but it took only two "taps" with a 1 pound mallet to knock it out. They welded the triple sight on, and didnt fill in some of the welds on the reciever. The rollers were already oversized to attempt to get it to pass quality so I could not just fix this with a roller type of fix. So...my nice $500 rifle ended up being almost $900 to repair. I had to buy a barrel, new triple sight, have the barrel pressed in and then headspaced correctly. They also filled in the welds, and I had the rifle re-coated. It now works correctly.
If it was me, I would pass on anything built by century. Some people live happily ever after with theres, but there are more complaints regarding the C93 than praise.
The other thing...if you look at a C93 and look at the numbers stamped on the parts you will find that these are not HK93's, but the slightly older malaysian HK33.
Hope this helps...
Here is my long story on an HK forum, with more details!
http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-clone-tal ... gap-3.html
I hear the PTR series of these rifles, or the Vectors have hardly any problems at all. I would check those out.


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 Post subject: Re: CETME or C93?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:08 pm 
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i have 2 cetmes and a c-93 all 3 shoot great,1 of my cetmes i built from a kit out of a hk-91 kit,the rec is a cetme from centry and its great out on the range,i here bad storys on the centrys ones but to each there own i gess,the first run on the centrys cetmes were bad,but the newer ones are great,i cut off the rear site ,rabbit ears and but on the hk91 ones on both ,,other than that ,thats it there great


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