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Re: Brazilian 1908 non matching Long rifle.

#16 Post by indy1919a4 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:10 pm

You know Kneverknew. (hows that for a sentence) I would really not worry about getting a good deal as much as getting something you like.. Deep down that is all that matters...

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Re: Brazilian 1908 non matching Long rifle.

#17 Post by steamer » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:20 pm

indy1919a4 wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:01 am
... what do you look at to gauge the interest???.. There is no body language to read, just numbers on a screen..
If you're using the Proxibid app that shows the live auction items and bids then you're seeing the auction progress in real-time. Be aware that some auctions even offer live audio and sometimes video. I don't usually bother with that.

So for example: If a new item goes up for bid and the bids are moving slowly (say $10 increments every few seconds) then you might win by simply adding $10 more to your bid - especially if it's only one other bidder that's interested. On the other hand, if multiple bidders are quickly adding $25 or $50 on every bid, there's a lot of interest and bidding usually goes up quickly and often beyond my limit. As I said, never be afraid to let go. I'm always amazed to see people bid more on something than I could purchase it for new or at Gun Broker. Give it a try and get a feel for the app - you don't have to bid on anything.

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Re: Brazilian 1908 non matching Long rifle.

#18 Post by KneverKnew » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:50 pm

indy1919a4 wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:10 pm
You know Kneverknew. (hows that for a sentence) I would really not worry about getting a good deal as much as getting something you like.. Deep down that is all that matters...
LOL. I see what you did there. I was able to sell the truck gems I did t want. I did make much. I’m still learning.

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Re: Brazilian 1908 non matching Long rifle.

#19 Post by KneverKnew » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:53 pm

steamer wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:20 pm
indy1919a4 wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:01 am
... what do you look at to gauge the interest???.. There is no body language to read, just numbers on a screen..
If you're using the Proxibid app that shows the live auction items and bids then you're seeing the auction progress in real-time. Be aware that some auctions even offer live audio and sometimes video. I don't usually bother with that.

So for example: If a new item goes up for bid and the bids are moving slowly (say $10 increments every few seconds) then you might win by simply adding $10 more to your bid - especially if it's only one other bidder that's interested. On the other hand, if multiple bidders are quickly adding $25 or $50 on every bid, there's a lot of interest and bidding usually goes up quickly and often beyond my limit. As I said, never be afraid to let go. I'm always amazed to see people bid more on something than I could purchase it for new or at Gun Broker. Give it a try and get a feel for the app - you don't have to bid on anything.
I’ve been doing the online live auctions lately and understand all your points. Unfortunately people are running prices way up into the retail price range on most items, making it not readable to get with intent to resell. I keep watching though for the occasional sleeper that people do you pay attention too.

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#20 Post by ammolab » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:44 pm

One of my best shooting Milsurps is a Brazilian 1908. The bore is not "mint" by any definition, but it shoot FN 1970 surplus ball so well that it always goes with me to NM Milsurps 800yard match. Great rifles!

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Re: Brazilian 1908 non matching Long rifle.

#21 Post by KneverKnew » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:36 pm

Sounds like I need to find some FN 7mauser surplus ammo. Any suggestions?

Also are there any other factory ammos, other than Remington core lokt, that has a rep for performing very well in these old horses? I’m thinking of trying Hornady’s New lines.

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#22 Post by KneverKnew » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:55 pm

I found some FN 7x57 surplus but it’s made in the ‘30’s. I’d assume this is corrosive and best left alone? It’s 174 FMJ’s.

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Re: Brazilian 1908 non matching Long rifle.

#23 Post by indy1919a4 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:55 pm

KneverKnew wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:55 pm
I found some FN 7x57 surplus but it’s made in the ‘30’s. I’d assume this is corrosive and best left alone? It’s 174 FMJ’s.
Nothing is wrong with corrosive ammo that a little water will not fix after shooting.. Especially in a bolt action rifle.... It started life eating corrosive ammo..

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Re: Brazilian 1908 non matching Long rifle.

#24 Post by KneverKnew » Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:38 pm

I may need to get a box or two then. Still, it would be nice to be able to find some of that FN70’s ammo that is supposed to be so accurate. I’d like to try it.

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#25 Post by KneverKnew » Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:56 am

My lee pacesetter die set arrives today. I think I have a few boxes of Speer and Sierra 139 and 154? Grain SP’s left from loading up my 7mm Remington Express. I have various powders. Does anyone have a pet load for their 1908 Brazilian they like? This would just be a suggestion for powder mainly. I’ll do some searching as well. I also have the listed bullets books. I will work up an OCW with the chosen powder and Bullet to find the best velocity/accuracy node. Thanks.

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#26 Post by KneverKnew » Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:08 pm

If need be, should I attempt to recrown the
Muzzle since this is a non matching gun? If need be l, of course..

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#27 Post by capt14k » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:38 pm

KneverKnew wrote:If need be, should I attempt to recrown the
Muzzle since this is a non matching gun? If need be l, of course..
Non matching I see no harm in a recrown.

Prices are all over the place for the 1908 Brazilian I bought one last year all matching for $400 shipped at local auction. Seen mixmasters in much rougher condition than yours sell for $350 on GunBroker. Also have seen all matching in near Unissued condition sell for $1,200 with matching bayonet and muzzle cover. Personally I wouldn't go above $500 for a matching 1908 Brazilian because they are somewhat common. However they are great rifles.

For ammo I second the FN from the 1970s. Also Chilean Military Surplus. If newer than I believe 1973 it is non corrosive. That 1930s FN is best to pull for components. Congrats on your purchase.

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Re: Brazilian 1908 non matching Long rifle.

#28 Post by KneverKnew » Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:40 am

capt14k wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:38 pm
KneverKnew wrote: For ammo I second the FN from the 1970s. Also Chilean Military Surplus. If newer than I believe 1973 it is non corrosive. That 1930s FN is best to pull for components. Congrats on your purchase.
I decided to pass on the 30’s FN ammo. Other expenses have arisen, don’t ya know.
Now the trick will be to find some of that 70’s FN or Chilean 73’s. I would love to give those a try. Right. Ow I’m shooting up the rest of a box of Remington core lokts and Hornady sst’s for the brass, as well as getting an accuracy and velocity base point. Yesterday was windy and rainy so sst’s didn’t do as well as I’d hoped. Mostly me I’m sure. I also cleaned the barrel down to bare metal, removing what looked like years worth of copper wash. That may have had something to do with performance as well. There are some slight rough spots/minor pitting in the Bore that may have been covered by the copper. I may need to shoot it a bit to fill those pores back in before she tightens up. Will try again soon.

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Re: Brazilian 1908 non matching Long rifle.

#29 Post by capt14k » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:10 am

KneverKnew wrote:
capt14k wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:38 pm
KneverKnew wrote: For ammo I second the FN from the 1970s. Also Chilean Military Surplus. If newer than I believe 1973 it is non corrosive. That 1930s FN is best to pull for components. Congrats on your purchase.
I decided to pass on the 30’s FN ammo. Other expenses have arisen, don’t ya know.
Now the trick will be to find some of that 70’s FN or Chilean 73’s. I would love to give those a try. Right. Ow I’m shooting up the rest of a box of Remington core lokts and Hornady sst’s for the brass, as well as getting an accuracy and velocity base point. Yesterday was windy and rainy so sst’s didn’t do as well as I’d hoped. Mostly me I’m sure. I also cleaned the barrel down to bare metal, removing what looked like years worth of copper wash. That may have had something to do with performance as well. There are some slight rough spots/minor pitting in the Bore that may have been covered by the copper. I may need to shoot it a bit to fill those pores back in before she tightens up. Will try again soon.
Not sure where you are but Joe in Phoenix has the Chilean at a good price.

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#30 Post by KneverKnew » Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:31 pm

I’m in Florida. Is there a link to Joe in Phoenix?

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