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CZ ( VZ ) 50 quality question

#1 Post by Rapidrob » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:16 am

The VZ 50 pistols are on sale again for 250 bucks, In good condition ( holster wear ) are these pistols a decent purchase?
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Re: CZ ( VZ ) 50 quality question

#2 Post by EdHoffer » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:03 pm

Without pics and who the supplier is an awful hard query to answer.

Based on old world prices (10-15yrs ago) if they are sound and work, the price is sound.

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#3 Post by DaleH » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:08 pm

I’ve seen them recently as low as $220. While I know nothing about them, your friend Ian from Forgotten Weapons just did a review of them from FEB 2018:

https://www.forgottenweapons.com/czech- ... ssessment/

Agree that ‘condition dictates price’!

Personally I’m not a big fan of the 32ACP, but for $220 or so I’d be all over one ... if lived in a ‘free’ State that is, where I could buy one ...

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#4 Post by Tommy Fox Stone » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:12 pm

Yes they are a decent purchase, I got mine from Classic Firearms for $219...
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#5 Post by TNGhost » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:14 pm

Rapidrob wrote:
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The VZ 50 pistols are on sale again for 250 bucks, In good condition ( holster wear ) are these pistols a decent purchase?
Don't know any specifics about this particular batch, but if you are speaking of the VZ50 in general, I bought one several years ago, and find it to be a very well built reliable pistol. Never have had any problems with it, but being a .32 ACP I have not put thousands of rounds through it either.

It is a little huskier than the sleeker Walther PP, but not ugly or blocky, and it shoots as reliably and accurately as my PP in .32 witht the DA pull being about the same or slightly stiffer.

All depends what you are going to do with it I guess. There are lighter smaller arms now that chamber more potent rounds for carry, but it is all steel and fits comfortably in a jacket pocket or small holster. It wouldn't trouble me at all to carry it. If you like the .32ACP and well built all steel pistols I'd say it was worth it.

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#6 Post by Rapidrob » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:35 pm

Thank you for the info. Just bought one for my wife's CCW "rough carry" and not have to worry abut tearing up a more expensive pistol.
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#7 Post by Rapidrob » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:59 pm

Pistol showed up today. Overall
condition is 9/10. Pistol was dirty. Bore is like new. I took the pistol apart down to the last pin and soaked it my ultrasound machine for an hour. It cleaned up well.
Trigger pull in double-action is awful. My Wife cannot pull it. Single action is about 6 pounds with lots of creep, but it breaks clean. The magazine takes a lot of effort to load the last three rounds.
We took the pistol and a box of 71 grain FMJ's to a local range. The front sight was very hard to see in the indoor light so I painted it orange. This really helped.
The pistol did shoot to the point of aim at 20 yards and grouped well. The slide locked back on the last shot. The magazine dropped free of the pistol very well when the button was pushed. The pistol, since it is a slightly modified "copy" of the Walther PP, points naturally.
Recoil was very mild with this pistol. Rapid fire was easy to do keeping the sights on target. Brass was ejected to the 4 o'clock at 8 feet. Fired brass was not swelled, very clean and had a large firing pin strike in the primer. Any brand of .32 Auto would go bang.
The built in hammer block and the De-cocker work well but do add to the trigger pull as they are both set when the trigger is being pulled.
IMHO the pistol is a good value and an accurate shooter. The quality of CZ firearms is well known.
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#8 Post by Rapidrob » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:07 pm

Targets fired. Blue was 20 yards, Black was ten yards both fired on by my wife, Elaine. With a better trigger pull she would have done better.
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#9 Post by jardows » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:41 pm

I've had one of these for a while, and it is good quality. I did tear it down and smoothed out some of the wear parts, which helped the trigger action a bit. Stout spring, so not much reduction in pull. Not sure if it is something particular to mine, but it does not feed HP's well at all, which makes me a bit sad because FMJ bullets are a bit hard to find.

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#10 Post by Rapidrob » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:12 pm

I researched replacing the springs in the CZ50 pistol. There is a guy selling a "kit" for a mere 45 bucks that is supposed to really help the trigger pull.
I contacted Wolf Springs and found a pair of spring kits that have 50 springs each in them that has several lengths and strengths to fix the pistol and both kits were under 20 bucks total. There should be the springs needed to really reduce the trigger pull to a more normal one.
I'll post the results and how to.
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#11 Post by jardows » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:36 pm

Rapidrob wrote:
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I researched replacing the springs in the CZ50 pistol. There is a guy selling a "kit" for a mere 45 bucks that is supposed to really help the trigger pull.
I contacted Wolf Springs and found a pair of spring kits that have 50 springs each in them that has several lengths and strengths to fix the pistol and both kits were under 20 bucks total. There should be the springs needed to really reduce the trigger pull to a more normal one.
I'll post the results and how to.
That would be great! It's one of the things that has kept me from shooting mine that much (along with ammo availability). I look forward to your findings!

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#12 Post by Rapidrob » Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:24 pm

I posted a short article on how to reduce the trigger pull and the results on target.
https://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewt ... =58&t=2519
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#13 Post by Rapidrob » Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:30 pm

We went to the range today. Elaine was shooting my +P hand-loads with 71 grain cast bullet loads. Since there are no SAMI standard pressures for the .32 ACP I worked up loads calculated for the heavy frame CZ50 and it's recoil spring. I have not fired my loads over a chronograph but the guesstimations show it to be around 1,150 FPS.
With the barrel being 3.9" long I may be able to get even more FPS and still be within safe limits. I'll keep you posted.
The load shot very well with no ejection problems or hammering of the slide. No bullets key holed. I'm using Bullseye powder but may change to Unique for a 100% case density loading.
I loaded up several 60 grain Hornandy Hollow Points and was not impressed with their accuracy. They fed just fine.
She may just carry cast round nose until I find a better jacketed bullet.
Elaine found a replacement magazine with little finger rest for 30 bucks,which isn't too bad as most for sale are 40+ dollars.
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