First off, I would like to thank everyone who has ordered Slack Springs. The great feed back has been tremendous. As many of you know there was a lot of work put into this spring. Much of the success I attribute to the forum members that helped with testing and suggestions through the development process. One of the question I had was, would there be enough sales to justify applying for a patent which is very expensive. I do have a copyright on my design and on all pictures of my spring including the ones on my web site. If sales continue I will probably apply for a patent. The problem I have is this. There is a company that is selling a spring almost exactly like my spring in looks only. They are definitely not of the same quality. The illegal part is they are using pictures of my spring as a advertisement. They started off selling my springs then I guess decided to have some made like mine to improve their profit. I am not at liberty to say who this company is at the moment because I am in the middle of taking legal action. I do know if that's what it takes to make a business succeed I would want no part of it. I know too many businesses that do it the old fashion way and earn it. I guess I just hate thieves. I thought this might happen. But not this soon and from the company that did it. Another problem to worry about is possible problems with these springs giving my company a bad name. If you buy a C & R Slack Spring it will come in a package with my company name and web site. If my company name and site is not in the package it is not a C & R Surplus Spring Slack Spring. Thanks again everyone

Hope you get it all taken care of...too many of these things go on, and damage the good guys so badly that we can never get the good stuff anymore. Good luck!

PM me so I don't do any business with them.

After everything is said and done be sure to post who the scumbags are so we can boycott their business. I don't care what they sell, if they are theives of that sort, I don't want what they sell at any price. If anyone else knows who they are pass the word about their practices on every forum out there to send a message.

Stand for something or fall for anything.

Just another testimonial,I bought and installed two of the genuine springs,and they work the nuts.I had one on a "sporterized" Mosin which came to me with a lightened and modified sear. I did have a nice light trigger,but LOTS of slack.This slack really didn't hurt anything,but it was sloppy,and it bothered me. The helper spring cured this adding hardly any weight to the pull...just right. Glad I bought them;I would have been bending wire for weeks to reach this result.


George

I have one original slack spring and the other was bought from Buymilsurp.com To me they both look the same, is there anyway to tell the dfference?

One easy way to tell is to measure wire diameter. The counterfeit one is about .002 smaller. The original should feel a little stiffer when you twist the legs of the spring. Also on my spring the long leg of the spring will have a slight bend away from the coil. This was formed into the spring to keep it away from the sear block. Thanks for asking

Sure enough it is a cheap copy, thinner wire. I had wondered why this one didn't work as good as the other.

Currently having a issue with Buymilsurp.com "Mark Kubes Firearms". Recent order for parts hasn't shown up. Mark refuses to answer emails. All I want is the tracking number. Needless to say he won't get anymore of my business. Sad that someone who has such a large asortment of parts can't run a business with better morals.

I say you your going to copy a product, make it better than the original not a junky cheap copy that doesn't function correctly.

Do yourself a favor and don't order from Mark Kubes Firearms "www.buymilsurp.com"

Just read what others are saying:

http://forum.pafoa.org/general-2/47697-buymilsurp-com-scam-artist.html

Yea, you can see he's been sticking it to customers for quite some time now. If it's weren't for the internet I believe someone like that could never stay in business. Can't imagine he gets a whole lot of repeat customers. I wonder how many other vendors like me he's stuck it to. He's someone I would love to meet in person.

I thought I would give him another chance yesterday. Wow he really can send a email...
Rather glad he did cancel the order, as I found the same parts $ 6 cheaper else where. I really
don't think Mark is playing with a full deck?

This is the email he sent:
Date Ordered: Sunday 29 August, 2010

The comments for your order are: Just in case you forgot what you wrote four
months ago on surplusrifle.com forums...

Currently having a issue with Buymilsurp.com "Mark Kubes Firearms". Recent
order for parts hasn't shown up. Mark refuses to answer emails. All I want
is the tracking number. Needless to say he won't get anymore of my business.
Sad that someone who has such a large asortment of parts can't run a
business with better morals.

Just wanted to remind you... you said "Needless to say he won't get anymore
of my business"

Just want to avoid you any grief/problems, your word and what you say
should mean something, I'm going to hold you to it.

Card Credited. Order Cancelled. Good Luck in your future endeavors.

Love Mark


Your order has been updated to the following status:

New status: Cancelled

If you are a member their... post the slack conterfeit warning... to show another scam.

I used to trust Mark Kubes, and he used to get my business.... no longer, nyet. nein. never.

What a class act that Mark is He can mock all the people he wants but carma bites you in the butt everytime.

This part is just hilarious. your word and what you say should men something.

Well Mark did hold up to his end this time.

Card Credited. Order Cancelled. Good Luck in your future endeavors.

Love Mark

Full refund given. Now if he paid this much attention to everything else...

Like I said before plenty of other places that are honest to order parts from.