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SOME THOUGHTS ON ACCURACY & OTHERS

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#271 Post by OLDGUNNER1 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:20 pm

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Here is another mold that I made from the LEE .22 molds. Notice that the one on the left is a Gas Check type. I notice the one on the left has the pypical LEE nose shape. I don't recall how or why this happened...it must have been that I used a bullet from a LEE mold to make a Leementing tool for the nose shape. Has one noticed that when one Leements a mold, it is always larger in the diameter of the gate than the other diameter by 1 or 2 thousandths? I know why this happens but I can't figure out a cure.

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#272 Post by OLDGUNNER1 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:42 pm

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This is when Mount Penatubo blew up in the Philippines when I was there. It was 17 miles away and we lived just a couple of blocks down the street from where I took this picture. That was my house keeper in the foreground.

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#273 Post by OLDGUNNER1 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:05 pm

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Here is my 1917 S&W...Date wise it was made in 1919 as I recall. I made the shoulder holster.

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#274 Post by OLDGUNNER1 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:22 pm

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And my 44-40...

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#275 Post by OLDGUNNER1 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:33 pm

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The top one, the Single Six, I bought two when they first came out in 1953. it started the new Western style fad. Then Colt came out with thier version.

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#276 Post by OLDGUNNER1 » Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:18 pm

MORE RAMBLING -

I saw the postings about the youngsters at the shooting ranges. I well understand the problems, and I have opinions about anything...and my opinion on this is... ‘It’s a problem’. I personally didn’t have this problem as this picture may explain. This is the one room school that I went to from the Primary to the Eighth grade. That is me, in the back row on the left, in the seventh grade. That girl on the right in the second row was my sweet, very sweet, neighbor girl across the road. We ‘grew up’ together. When she was 16 some guy scarfed her up and married her. We lived in the ‘country’ in Iowa.

At five years old just as I was starting school before my sixth birthday, my dad bought me my first rifle, a .22 single shot with Springfield on the barrel. I never could figure out who made this. But I can remember the day clearly...We went to the local Sears and Roebuck store on a Saturday and bought it....3.95 plus 4 cents sales tax. We went home and we walked maybe 50 yards behind the house and I shot my first rabbit with that rifle with the first shot out of that rifle. My dad said, “Now shoot it in the head.” And I wore off the firing pin. I made a replacement out of a piece of old saw blade when my son was using it. My dad had a Savage Model 23 that was very accurate, maybe as accurate as a Winchester Model 52 if it had a peep sight. I have it now.

And I figured out ways to teach my two kids to shoot while living in the ‘City’...My first chance at that was when we lived in LA and would drive up to the Angeles Crest Mountains and shoot. And then when we moved to Phoenix, we lived just two blocks from the northern edge of town and just shot in the desert. I do recall taking my son to a public shooting range one time to teach him how to use my Winchester Model 92 when he was maybe 9 or 10.

My dad and brother were country kids, both being born in a one room log cabin.. My uncle was in the Army in France during WW1. He got off the boat and was in a truck on the way to the front lines when the war ended, so he never fired a shot. He did have a trick shot....He would toss 5 empty .22 cases in the air and shoot them before they hit the ground with a .22 Pump.

One time as a teenager I went duck hunting with a neighbor kid and he borrowed a 12 gauge shot gun and accidently fired a shot two feet from my head. I went rattlesnake hunting one time with a coworker and he ‘borrowed’ a .22 revolver and the first snake we saw he fired his while still in his holster....shot though his pant leg and edge of his shoe....not good to go with someone with a borrowed firearm. Or...a new one, like the story one time of a guy buying a .44 magnum and holster at a gun store that I frequented. The owner told me that the guy took it out back to use it for the first time and after a few shots thought he would try fast draw and shot himself in his knee.

Yes, living in a city trying to teach young kids to shoot can be a problem. I have bought Benjamin and Crosman Air Pistols to shoot indoors for practice. One time I bought a so-called accurate spring operated pistol that had in writing on the box, “Can hit a quarter at 25 yards.” Which was very true, but they left off the part about ‘Maybe one time out of fifty’. Otherwise it shot a good 12 inch group at 25 yards.

And, I would not like to be at a range with a young kid next to me. I don’t even like the feel of the general open public ranges. I use to shoot at a pubic range in LA that had heavy walls between each table.

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#277 Post by OLDGUNNER1 » Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:38 pm

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This use to be the first bar outside of the main gate of Area 51.

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#278 Post by OLDGUNNER1 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:28 pm

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I just went through a bunch of old photos and I’ll just post some with the sea story. This is the mottle crew that I worked with when assigned to the 1st Marine Air Wing in Vietnam, DeNang AB. We were all DoD contract employees. That is I on the upper left, with my running buddy on my left. We all left at the same time in September 68. The one in the first row on the right and I went back to the Philippines...he and I retired about the same time and he ended up in Florida runnings some kind of flying business. My running buddy went to Japan and worked for Nippon Air Lines, married a stewardess, sent her to flight school. all the way to AT license, (Air Transport). They both went to work for Eastern Air Lines on the east coast as pilots and I had head that she made full pilot while he was still a copilot. But in DeNang he was a wild man...he was an ex marine who was among the first marines to land in Vietnam at DeNang in 1965. Some of the things that he/we done was...Transportation was hard to come by and he had gotten a few cans of spray paint and we spent one afternoon trying to find a loose jeep to steal on the base – couldn’t find one. I had to go to Japan for something and before I came back I bought five Honda 50 cc bikes for 99 dollars each and had them sent back by APO mail, 10 dollars postage each, and sold them for $300 each. Well my buddy thought that was a good deal so he went to Japan and bought 24 or 25 and had them sent back and sold them to marines for $300 each. Well a couple of marines riding on the flight line at night hit their necks on plane wings, and their CO made them sell them all back to my buddy, so he just sold them in town for more than 300. Another thing that we did was scrounge 100 dollar bills and sell them to a Chinese Money Changer in town for 140 in US script. The guy in the picture on his left had a sister working in Ohio at a bank. He wrote her and said that my buddy would be coming there and give him some thousand dollar bills – he bought 10 unregistered bills from, her and brought them back to DeNang thinking that he could get more than the usual 1.40 per dollar as with the 100 dollar bills. Well, the money changer said, hey I have never seen a thousand dollar bill, and I don’t know if these are real or not but I know a guy that knows. He gave these 10 bills to the money changer and let him take them to this ‘guy’...he came back and yes, okay, but I can’t give you more than the 1.4 because they would be hard to deal with...so he still made only 4 thousand. He went all the way to Ohio for nothing.

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#279 Post by OLDGUNNER1 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:48 pm

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This was my boss’s private secretary. She climbed up that palm tree and twisted off a couple of coconuts. She was a light house keepers daughter...The light house was on an island off Luzon and was built by the Spaniards in 1700 and something. We spent a night there and most nights they would kill a goat for dinner. They had goats running loose on the island just for the food. He had a crew of 4 and what was left over was fed to the dogs. And, and...the way they cooked the goats were they would gut them out and just throw on a fire just like that with the hair on.

We almost were married....I had made a wedding ring from an Air Craft Quality stainless steel nut. I still have it – never used. I did buy a real one when I was married the second time...but they look the same.
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#280 Post by OLDGUNNER1 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:52 pm

Russian Vladivostok Naval Station – I heard about a special group going to Russia but I didn’t know what for. I made a call on a Tuesday and I said that I would like to go...the guy said that it may be close but he will try. At the time any US civilian had to get the State Department’s approval to travel to Russia and of course the Russian’s I was briefed by the NIS, Naval Intelligence Service, on Thursday, approved by both parties the next day...the US flew me to Yokohoma, arrived there late Saturday evening. There was no time to go to the Russian Consulate to get my visa so a Russian runner came to the Russian Ferry that would take our small group and I to Russia Sunday morning and stapled a Russian visa in my passport and we left at about noon for Russia. The Russians and the US State Department really wanted me with that group. And I still didn’t now why. When I arrived there thee KGB Chief of Far Eastern Russia gave us their welcome for an hour and introduced us to what we would be doing. The local college in Vladivostok had a special course for KGB spies. Their old KGB school for interrogation was in the basement. Some Russian in DC came up with this idea...this group would go to Russia, help these future KGB spies with their English and in turn we were to ‘look around’. Everything in Russia was furnished by the Russians. At the time there were no American books or movies allowed in Russia, and here they were trying to learn English. One of the College teachers was with us constantly as were the students. The teacher said to me one day that he wished that he could have access to some American books and I said that I sure would send him some. And he said ‘oh no, no’. If they catch me at that it would be two years in a gulag. Just like one of the students that I mentioned to one day, why can’t I find any ice around here? He said that oh no, there is no ice in Vladivostok. If one is caught making ice in their refrigerator it’s two years in a gulag. I didn’t ask why because then I knew...30 dollars a month could be an average income for a retiree and a monthly rent with utilities could be 9 $. This teacher said that his monthly one room apartment rent was 9 $. And...Socialism...His housing and utilities were largely furnished by the government, and...ice was considered an unnecessary luxury . If one steals from their county it’s off to a gulag. Now the KGB can have ice, and that is the only place that I saw it, a going away party for us.

One evening about maybe 10, we were coming back into town with no traffic in a bus and I was setting in front and the street was dimly lit with some low wattage light bulbs. and in the street it looked like a guy had been hit and the bus driver just swerved as to not hit him again and just kept right on going. Yep, been there and seen that....and a whole lot more. This photo was of some practicing maneuvers.
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#281 Post by OLDGUNNER1 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:13 pm

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That is me landing somewhere in the Philippines - a coworker took the photo.

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#282 Post by OLDGUNNER1 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:21 pm

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That's me holding down a 10 inch spider. It can hardly be seen.
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#283 Post by OLDGUNNER1 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:41 pm

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Just some more damage from the Mount Penatubo explosion in the Philippines...notice my Scout...I bought it in Portland Oregon, took it to the Philippines in 84, then to Hawaii and here to Colorado when I retired and still have it.

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#284 Post by Cattus Borealis » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:47 pm

Interesting stories!

Ever think to write a book for posterity?

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#285 Post by OLDGUNNER1 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:36 pm

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Remember the TV series China Beach...this is the real China Beach at our Xmas 67 Party. The Australian Cruser Canbera came in about three hundred years off shore and fired a few salvos right over our heads inland, and skooted fast so the NVA couldn't fire back. NVA - Northern Vietnamese Army. The NVA was just five miles inland.

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