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M1917 or SMLE?

#1 Post by Tennessee.58 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:40 pm

Well with my birthday coming up, the wife said I can get a rifle, so I'm torn between a M1917 or a smle, I'm thinking a sporter to refurbish as that's something I like doing... Anyway which rifle would you choose, pros and cons of both? Not really looking for a collector peice as I want to shoot it and not be too worried if it gets knocked around

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Re: M1917 or SMLE?

#2 Post by spentprimer » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:48 pm

I have a preference toward the smle for some reason.
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Re: M1917 or SMLE?

#3 Post by Tommy Atkins » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:53 pm

SMLE!
Why?
I like the enfield action.
Unlike the M1917 all the bits & pieces are fully interchangeable between makers, so you have a better choice for parts that are becoming scarce.
The SMLE bolt is way slicker than the Mauser-actioned 1917.
It takes 10-rounds as opposed to 5.

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Re: M1917 or SMLE?

#4 Post by Hammerdown » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:25 pm

I would go M1917. If your looking to restore a sporter look at some prices first on parts not cheap now days. The M1917 parts are interchangeable with each maker. The P1914 and P1913 had the parts problems with each maker. 30-06 would be cheaper and easier to find. They do have a 6rd mag and they were carried by US military in WW1-2. SMLE would be the cheaper of the 2 to buy but also not worth as much if you sell it.
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Re: M1917 or SMLE?

#5 Post by 72 usmc » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:34 pm

How silly , its easy, you buy one of each specimen. Heck, you need a SMLE , an enfield No 5 Jungle carbine, and a No. 4 . Then you add a US m1917 and a British P14. That would be a basic kit :shock:
Then later you add a Mauser Gew 98 and K98, then some Russians stuff say a M91 and 91/30. Most likely need a French Mas 36 or Berthier, and a Japanese type 38 and type 99. And you can not leave out the odd ball Carcano and the M95.
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Re: M1917 or SMLE?

#6 Post by Cattus Borealis » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:40 pm

Go with the M-1917. They are harder to find and they are in common caliber.

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Re: M1917 or SMLE?

#7 Post by B32dominator » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:49 pm

I like the idea of saving a sported M1917, but beware a stock and then all the other missing parts will get expensive. I owned a M1917, it was a good shooter but found it just heavy and overly bulky, I parted ways with it. I miss it in my collection, but love my 1943 Lithgow far more. Nothing compares to the looks and action on a vintage SMLE, you won't be disappointed.

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M1917 or SMLE?

#8 Post by Esu_1985 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:55 pm

Yes stocks for the m1917 are around but very pricey. I just sold a Remington 1917 stock that had been lightly sanded with non matching (beech) handguards for $350 alone not too long ago. Want Winchester you're gonna pay over 400. That's just for the wood, no metal included. Also watch out for shortened barrels and receivers that have been highly polished, removing markings and sharp edges.

I learned all of these things the hard way after buying a replacement stock for my sporterized eddystone. Got the stock and the barrel was too short haha. So I spent some time looking for a sporterized 1917 that had the original length barrel on it. After several months of seeing non-chopped sporters going for over 400, I ended up just buying a complete rifle for 600. Stripped the Remington stock mentioned above and replaced it with the correct eddy that I bought for my sported 17. It ended up working out well in the end, but I definitely learned from my mistake and began hitting to forums and books to make sure, or at least lower my chances, of something similar happening again with my other milsurps.

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Re: M1917 or SMLE?

#9 Post by Tennessee.58 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:29 pm

I'm sold on the SMLE, I miss the one I had and would love to have another

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Re: M1917 or SMLE?

#10 Post by FamilyFirearms » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:24 am

Lots of SMLE stocks and parts out there. With new ammo, the cost for it are close and reloadable. Plus I have an Enfield addiction 😬

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Re: M1917 or SMLE?

#11 Post by Rapidrob » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:10 pm

For accuracy it will be very hard to beat the M1917. While the SMLE's are neat rifles,they have been shot,and shot a lot. None of my SMLE's can even come close to the long range accuracy my M1917 has that is in like new condition.
Since your not going to find a SMLE in new condition for sale at a reasonable price you can find No4 Mk1's and later Marks in new condition and they do shoot well.
I'm by no means against the SMLE as I own a wall full of them,they are just well used and have fired lord knows how many rounds in their lives.
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Re: M1917 or SMLE?

#12 Post by PennsylvaniaRifleman » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:33 pm

I enjoy having both, but if I had to choose...
Who am I kidding, I couldn't choose between them, I just wanted to add some pics to your thread. You can't go wrong either way, just tell yourself you'll eventually try to get one of each...
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Re: M1917 or SMLE?

#13 Post by lifeon2 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:49 pm

Another vote for the SMLE here I have both but if one had to go it would be the 1917

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Re: M1917 or SMLE?

#14 Post by patrick_ford » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:28 am

I would go with the a No. 4. They are pretty common in my area and sporter versions can generally be had for pretty cheap. SMLEs are a little harder to find lower prices. Either way, I'd price the needed components you'd need to restore a sporterized version and see if its worth it versus getting an intact rifle.
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Re: M1917 or SMLE?

#15 Post by wybuffler » Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:28 pm

Depends somewhat on your area, but SMLEs are found more easily than P17s in my experience. Out here, I've only seen 2 P17s (non sporterized) in over a year. On the other hand, I've seen at least 4 SMLEs recently, both sporterized and not. Mausers seem to be more common at gun shows here too.

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