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Good show on HMS Hood

#1 Post by Hippycrowe » Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:19 am

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AXBODH8tkeE

Wow look at the shell holes on Bismark and boy the Hood is almost completely destroyed I guess a Battle Cruiser should never go against a battleship.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=paOxB8_2ytQ
Uss Arizona inside the ship she is still in good condition even uniforms on the 3 deck are still in very good shape

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Re: Good show on HMS Hood

#2 Post by ffuries » Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:34 pm

Wow and still hanging on the clothes hanger amazing!
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Re: Good show on HMS Hood

#3 Post by Hippycrowe » Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:55 pm

All that explosive force and 75 years low oxygen levels must be key.

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Re: Good show on HMS Hood

#4 Post by 72 usmc » Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:04 pm

To old to fight and to old to run, a Jar head will just shoot and be done with you.

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Re: Good show on HMS Hood

#5 Post by SWIHARTMARK » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:34 pm

After researching a bit about the Hood, while she was laid down as a battlecruiser during WWII, but she was later upgraded with more armor, 5,000 tons worth, not exactly an insignificant amount putting her in the class of a fast battleship. She was still a bit long in the tooth for being launched in 1920 as compared to the Bismarck. I doubt the Bismarck was as vulnerable to plunging fire as the Hood, but the Bismarck was largely patterned after old 15" WWI German battleship designs, not exactly cutting edge stuff. Both ships had speed to outrun most ships with 14" guns or larger, so it is natural they met each other on the high seas. Unfortunately for the Bismarck, she could not outrun aircraft and a determined attack by biplanes crippled her for other ships of the Royal Navy to finish her off. Had something like an USN Yorktown or Saratoga class carrier caught her, supporting vessels might not have even been needed to finish her off. The best stuff was afloat in the Pacific for the most part.


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Re: Good show on HMS Hood

#6 Post by ffuries » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:16 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, didn't evidence of the Bismarck exploration show that the Germans scuttled her in the end?

Been a while since I watched the documentary, also the show "Drain The Oceans" did an episode on the Bismarck that showed the same outcome.
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Re: Good show on HMS Hood

#7 Post by SWIHARTMARK » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:00 pm

Remember, she was being pummeled into a pulp by 15" or 16" shells from a Nelson class battleship at the time. Her main turrets were out of action by then. Not much left to scuttle by the time they did it.

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The US destroyers off Leyte verses the Japanese squadron led by the Yamato put up a better fight. No scuttles there last time I checked.

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Re: Good show on HMS Hood

#8 Post by Hippycrowe » Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:26 am

Bismark would have sank sooner if the British had kept at long range and used plunging fire. They closed the range so close the shells skipped of the water and hit the super structure. No matter what the Germans say she was sunck because of the British she was pounded to the point she couldn't even move she was doomed even if the scuttle order had never been given.
Plunging fire gets into the magazines and weaker deck armor. The 16"x45 cal Guns on the Us battleships had a better plunging fire angle than the Iowa 16"x50 cal.

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Re: Good show on HMS Hood

#9 Post by ffuries » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:07 am

True, I knew she took a beating and would had eventually sunk. I think the Germans act of scuttling her just sped the process up, and allowed them to say we scuttled her versus the British saying we sunk her.

Good read here.....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_ ... p_Bismarck

All this talk of the Bismarck brought back a memory, I remember as a kid my dad playing Johnny Hortons album, on it is the song Sink The Bismarck. (I inherited my dad's reel to reel after he passed away and on one reel is Johnny Hortons album.

Sink The Bismarck

In May of nineteen forty-one the war had just begun
The Germans had the biggest ship, they had the biggest guns
The Bismarck was the fastest ship that ever sailed the sea
On her deck were guns as big as steers and shells as big as trees

Out of the cold and foggy night came the British ship, the Hood
And every British seaman, he knew and understood
They had to sink the Bismarck, the terror of the sea
Stop those guns as big as steers and those shells as big as trees

We'll find the German battleship that's makin' such a fuss
We gotta sink the Bismarck cause the world depends on us
Hit the decks a-runnin' boys and spin those guns around
When we find the Bismarck we gotta cut her down

The Hood found the Bismarck on that fatal day
The Bismarck started firin' fifteen miles away
"We gotta sink the Bismarck" was the battle sound
But when the smoke had cleared away, the mighty Hood went down

For six long days and weary nights they tried to find her trail
Churchill told the people "put every ship a-sail
'Cause somewhere on that ocean I know she's gotta be
We gotta sink the Bismarck to the bottom of the sea"

We'll find that German battleship that's makin' such a fuss
We gotta sink the Bismarck 'cause the world depends on us
Hit the decks a-runnin' boys and spin those guns around
When we find the Bismarck we gotta cut her down

The fog was gone the seventh day and they saw the mornin' sun
Ten hours away from homeland the Bismarck made its run
The admiral of the British fleet said "turn those bows around
We found that German battleship and we're gonna cut her down"

The British guns were aimed and the shells were comin' fast
The first shell hit the Bismarck, they knew she couldn't last
That mighty German battleship is just a memory
"Sink the Bismarck" was the battle cry that shook the seven seas

We found that German battleship been makin' such a fuss
We had to sink the Bismarck 'cause the world depends on us
We hit the deck a-runnin' and we spun those guns around
Yeah, we found the mighty Bismarck and prepared to cut her down

We found that German battleship been makin' such a fuss
We had to sink the Bismarck 'cause the world depends on us
We hit the deck a-runnin' and we spun those guns around
We found the mighty Bismarck and then we cut her down
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Re: Good show on HMS Hood

#10 Post by SWIHARTMARK » Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:46 pm

Man, you got that on reel to reel? I thought it was only on old 45's.

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Re: Good show on HMS Hood

#11 Post by sowbelle » Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:50 pm

HMS Hood was constructed in the same shipyard as the Titanic. That being said, the iron the was used to construct both ships had a common flaw.
The iron became very brittle when exposed to cold water. That said, Bismarcks third shot hit just the right place at the right time.
It was thought to be a "chink" in the armour, but all that was debunked when Hood was found. Ballard took iron specimens from both ships, had it analyzed.
That is how this conclusion was reached. Call it a lucky hit or what you want, history cannot be changed. The anguish the three survivors was heartbreaking.

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