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585HE, 375 & 416 HE, 416HSM...

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:04 pm
by hubel585
Ed here, the 12ga FH, 585HE guy getting back on.

We have wildcatted our 585HE big bore case into 375 HE and 416 HE

for long range shooting and ELR shoots like ''King of 2 Mile'' shoot.

We also have a super ELR case, the 416 HSM we wildcat from BMG brass,

pictured here with BMG case, Ed

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Re: 585HE, 375 & 416 HE, 416HSM...

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:10 pm
by hubel585
Our 585HE case is in the 15th Edition of the COTW Book.
Here is a guy shooting 585 with gun he did..

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Here is pic of our 375 HE and 416 HE, with 416 HSM.

On the right is 378 WEA for comparison...Ed.


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Re: 585HE, 375 & 416 HE, 416HSM...

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:25 pm
by Mashuga
Thanks for bringing this back.

Re: 585HE, 375 & 416 HE, 416HSM...

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:21 am
by hubel585
THANKS>>


Here is recap simple setup to get faster loads with 12ga sabots

& slugs, Example using break actions...., reaming chamber

in a 12ga break action to 3.5" with a 3.5" 12ga reamer, that isn't

something needing special order, and use 3.5" plastic cases , or

get 3.5" brass cases made. With mag shotgun primers and

our slower powder loads you can get a quarter more speed,

which gives 50% more energy...


585 Hubel Express video, 190ft/lbs recoil, heavy load, gun little light.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyS9zZ8ElJA


Another view of Precision's.... 375 HE target gun,

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Here is our 416 HSM we are developing next to 416 Barrett, Ed

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Re: 585HE, 375 & 416 HE, 416HSM...

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:01 am
by Smokey
I remember following this occasionally in a shotgun forum.

Re: 585HE, 375 & 416 HE, 416HSM...

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:12 pm
by hubel585
Here in picture of the cases, are shown the steps in making

our 416 HSM case, from BMG brass,, Ed

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We might have a company that is doing a bolt gun with an action

between BMG size and longer rifle actions used for 375 HE,

416 HE, and Cheytac/Gibbs size cases..

A long action for our 416 HSM without

having to do extreme rebating of the rim.


Here is picture of bunch 416 hsm cases half done. Done on cnc ,

that slimmed them down, cut new rim and extractor groove.

There are over big bunch more in another box ....Ed.

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Re: 585HE, 375 & 416 HE, 416HSM...

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:43 pm
by hubel585
Here is link to guy doing special 585 HE in the EU, Good pictures., Ed,.....

...... www.585he.cz

Re: 585HE, 375 & 416 HE, 416HSM...

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:53 pm
by hubel585
Here is one picture of his 585HE used MRC PH action...Ed..

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Re: 585HE, 375 & 416 HE, 416HSM...

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:36 pm
by Smokey
The military principle of overkill is still followed?

Re: 585HE, 375 & 416 HE, 416HSM...

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:35 pm
by hubel585
As Bert says, carry enough gun, like a 4 bore... Ed



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Re: 585HE, 375 & 416 HE, 416HSM...

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:52 am
by hubel585
Here is picture of the bolt from the experimental action,

with our 416 HSM case in it. Note the amount of the

base size of locking lugs, the amount of area on the bolt..


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Here is link to guy doing special 585 HE in the EU,

Good pictures............www.585he.cz

We tested intermediate action with a 700HE barrel we had here.

Just temporary to test strength. 1000 gr over 3100..

Action worked fine.. Ed.

Re: 585HE, 375 & 416 HE, 416HSM...

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:57 am
by hubel585
Experimental intermediate size action with the Montana PH, for comparison.

It is an experimental action for our 416 HSM, to do our speed testing with

and get a better action than Cheytac size actions, for bigger case ELR use,

without going all way up to more expensive, huge actions.

It is big long round style action that can take our 416 HSM, almost

1.6" diameter action and .800" bolt, with locking lugs nearly as big as most

BMG actions.... ED


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Re: 585HE, 375 & 416 HE, 416HSM...

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:53 pm
by Smokey
hubel585 wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:43 pm
Here is link to guy doing special 585 HE in the EU, Good pictures., Ed,.....

...... www.585he.cz
This would be appropriate for kodiak bear. Alaskan rangers carry 458 Winchester rifles, and are trained to use them rapid fire, shooting, reloading and shooting until the bear stops (or they are killed).
Might just need one shot with this.

Re: 585HE, 375 & 416 HE, 416HSM...

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:05 pm
by hubel585
Here is video of early water barrel test of the

12ga From Hell, from years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c48zTpsgbuk


Here is picture from that video..

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Here is the intermediate size action for 416 HSM with test barrel, .Ed

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Re: 585HE, 375 & 416 HE, 416HSM...

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:49 pm
by hubel585
In 416 HSM got a 415 gr long target bullet 3800,

with plain barrel, no brake, on intermediate action,

Our 416 HE gets same 415gr bullet 3300.Ed