Some FORUM HISTORY,
From what I remember Surplusrifle.com started around May 2000 by Jamie Magnum as a home grown web site, it was a very popular early forum around 2002 with emphasis on Surplus Military firearms. It ran from 2000-2006. Give or take???
It had copyrighted assembly and disassembly instructions and some key articles that by 2003 appeared on the left side of the forums first page. The owner got ill and by 30 March 2007 it was shut down. A few years prior to its shut down Mr Mangrum produced CDs that had all his copyrighted materials from 2002 -2006. The online store closed 25 Dec 2006, and then at some later date Tennessee Gun Parts sold off the remaining CDs for a short time. I remember Jamie mangum's early 2004 article on "Selecting Your First Military Surplus Rifle or Carbine". Jamie posted his good by:
By Jamie Mangrum
I have pondered for the past month as to how I would put my thoughts down on this matter in an article. I started writing mentally while lying in a hospital bed over a period of thirteen days. I had a lot of time to think. The question? How do you close the door on something you have enjoyed and loved for the past five years? Surplusrifle.com has become something much larger than I ever thought it would. It has become a large resource of information, a community, and a business. The last part is what drives my decision. Surplusrifle.com has become a business. A necessary business that pays the bills for all three sites. We now average between 50k and 70k visitors per day and those visitors read and download a lot of megabytes. The main site is so large and now has so much daily traffic that we cannot be on anything but a commercial server with unlimited bandwidth. Please let me state at this juncture that I do not want anyone to contribute money to me to keep the site up and running. If you respect me and wish to honor me then please honor my wishes. I appreciate any concern and thoughts to this end but my mind is made up.
The three sites have become a monster that eats my wife's and my time every single day. Some days for an hour, some days for four to eight hours. What is sad to me is that I have not had the time or energy to write and publish my own work in over three months. The business of the site consumes all of my free time. It may be selfish but writing is the sole reason I got into this venture to begin with. I enjoy sharing my thoughts and experiences with you.
I started a new and very demanding day job this year and I knew that some day I would have to make a decision between the site and my job. The problem is the decision came too soon because now there is a new variable in the mix. I have cancer. It started as a more treatable form of cancer that we thought we had caught in time and later learned that it had spread and spread quickly. Since then I have had three major surgeries and have gone through hell (s) that I would not wish on my most dire enemy. I now face chemo therapy and even now they tell me I am facing a 70% survival rate. My mind is true and hopefully soon my body will be also. I really do not want to elaborate on this anymore.
I would like to take a moment and thank my wife Donna. If it were not for Donna Surplusrifle.com would have ceased to exist some time ago. Donna tirelessly pays the bills, fills orders for CD-ROMS and Manuals, prints and binds manuals, burns CD-ROMs, handles all shipping and receiving, and while I have been sick she even attempted to answer your emails. Sometimes as men we take our spouses for granted. I am guilty of this and am ashamed. She does not even like firearms. She has done all of this because she loves me and knew that the site was important to me. I owe here a debt of gratitude that I will never be able to pay. Oddly enough if you are reading this or have used information on the site...then so do you.
I have made the decision to shutdown Surplusrifle.com on March 30th, 2007. I picked this date because it was the last date I was contractually bound to any of the sponsors. I am grateful to the sponsors that have supported Surplusrifle.com over the past five years. Some have become friends that I will count as friends for the rest of my life. Thank you all. John Huber and Tim Jones thank you both for all of the support. John you are a generous and kind man. You were both there from the beginning and stuck with me till the end.
When the site shuts down the content will no longer be available online. This is why I created the BIG CD-ROM II. I wanted folks to be able to have a complete version of the site even though the site is no longer in existence. Basically if you have the BIG CD-ROM I and II you have very single book, article, manual, and video we ever published on two CD-ROMS. I am working on a deal that will allow the CD-ROMS and manuals to be published and sold by Tennessee Gun Parts after the site shuts down. I will let you know how this proceeds.
I knew I was sick when we had the California shoot. The shoot was more special to me than you could have ever imagined. It was my way of meeting a lot of you for the first and last time. Thank you all who came. I really enjoyed myself and all of you. Randall, Paul, and Ralph thank you for helping me pull it off. I really appreciate it.
The friends I have made with Surplusrifle.com have been my greatest reward. There are so many that I cannot name them all. I wish to thank Mark and Ted for all of the articles they have submitted over the years and for being there for me to share ideas, jokes, and general complaining in email and on the phone. You are my friends and I thank you for that. I wish to thank my moderators who have made the Surplusrifle.com forum and chat room one of the most civil places on the internet to share ideas and discuss military firearms. Thank you all.
Don, thank you for being a friend to Surplusrifle.com and myself. You have been very patient with me over the years and have supplied most of the fine rifles and pistols we used on the site. Thank you very much.
I am not going anywhere. Mark, Ted, and I are starting a new website that will have articles on firearms in general. It will cover military firearms which is our first and foremost love but it will also cover firearms in general ranging from new commercial to what ever we want to write about on the subject of firearms. The new site will not have sponsors and will not sell anything. It will cost almost nothing to run and will afford me time to write and publish articles again. I will publish the URL address on Surplusrifle.com to the new site when it is ready to launch. We already have at least half a dozen articles in the hopper for the unveiling that all readers of Surplusrifle.com will enjoy.
Five years is a long time for a home grown web site to run. I have had a lot of fun and I hope you have too. Please know this was not an easy decision to make or article to write. Since my illness I have really turned into a girl when it comes to my emotions. I had better end this article so I don't break down.
By Jamie Mangrum
The new revised forum called Surplusrifleforum.com
started around 4 Aug.2006 with a new name and header, but the assembly & disassembly instructions were gone.The new one had a green top with an SKS and the title " Collecting and Shooting the Military Surplus Rifle ---SURPLUSRIFLFORUM". I first joined 4 Aug 2006. The old information from Surplusrifle.com (the copyrighted material) are archived on the Wayback Machine as early as 3 Feb 2003. The good info is on the CDs that are now out of print.
Surplusrifleforum.com was also huge and had as many as 28,519 members prior to the Great Extinction of this forum on 26 or 27 July 2017. All info., stickies, posts, and pictures were gone due to the single owners access to the old host being lost. I believe with the efforts of some of the old mods and Ericfate the current Surplusrifleforum.com was restarted by elricfate on 2 June 2017. Here is the introduction of the 2 June 2017 Rebirth of this forum:
by elricfate » Mon Jun 05, 2017 1:34 pm
Good afternoon everyone
For those who don't know me, let me give you a brief rundown and reason behind my work in bringing this forum back.
A couple things about myself -- I worked in IT doing technical support for over a decade, I've run an IRC server and later a network, I've run several websites, I've been a moderator on a lot of forums and I'm inclined to enjoy shooting. Right this moment I work in data analytics, I'm an active moderator on a handful of forums, I'm an active channel op on a handful of IRC servers/channels and bringing back SRF was a work of love for me.
I started at SRF in 2006, I joined because a friend on an IRC channel said "Hey, you like to shoot and whatnot, go join this forum" -- I did it because, ultimately, my first rifle was a Mosin M38 from AIM Surplus and I wanted to show it off. Since then I met a lot of the staff and a lot of the members at a couple Schutzenfests, did a lot of exploring the forums, etc. I was approached to be a mod some years ago and I agreed to help out, what I was told is that they wanted someone familiar with computers to run a Computer Problems subforum, that's where some of you might recognize me, but I was a global moderator on the forums so I went here and there cleaning up messes in quiet.
Fast forward to March of this year, I found out that the domain for SRF was expiring. No one else was taking the reins so I reached out to the owner of the domain and asked if we could have it back. He quietly transferred it to me and I registered it for a number of years forward. Then May rolled around and we lost contact with Jonesboy, still not sure where is or what has happened... but I digress. The forum went into a nosedive because the host shut off access of the site. I tried every way I could to take it over so I could just pay on it and get the site back up but they would not budge and would not allow me access.
Since I owned the domain, I went ahead and made a new SRF. That's what you see here. We don't know if we'll ever truly get access to the old site's database or not, but we have this one now and I'm doing everything in my power to make sure we keep it. Even if I'm not active in day to day after this initial setup period, I am leaving you all in good hands and will always be available if something were to happen that requires my attention.
Surplusrifleforum.com had a few crashes; the biggest around 2010 when a few days of posts disappeared and then the Great Extinction 2017. All membership info was lost and everyone had to reregister. All the old posts ( 2006-2017) are saved on The Wayback Machine. To find something you have to center in on what date or month it was originally posted to find it. While the old posts are archived as you select a capture day of archived posts, it only seems to save information around that day for a few pages. If you attempt to look back on that archived day by 5-7 pages it indicates the post was not saved. Actually the old post may still be saved, but you just have to get to a closer capture date on the Wayback Machine of the post to actually find it.
Now due to the Photobucket switch to pay as you post; after 10 years of allowing free picture posting, that was stopped. As a result, most photos not saved & posted by the direct forum method are lost. All photos archived on Photobucket and posted direct through Photobucket which was easier than the forum direct method are gone unless the original poster has paid a yearly fee and Photobucket allows posting of the old/all photos. If you pay the yearly Photobucket fee, then the photos show up in the old Wayback Machine saves. Most photos about 60-70 % are gone making some of the old posts useless due to so many missing photos. Any non forum method posted photos-those posted through another host were lost in the Wayback Machine saves. I think most of us thought they would be saved, but this was not the case. So while I original started posting in 4 Aug 2006, all my pictures are gone in the Wayback saves. Photobucket still maintains your old archive, and you can download your photos back onto your computer. Hence some of the old members that still have files with photos are redoing their lost posts. So here is my two cents worth of forum history
So in the Wayback Machine: you have old posts from Surplusrifle.com
(2003-2006) and then Surplusrifleforum.com
(2006 -2017). Some of us are also saving posts on the Wayback Machine from the post Extinction- our new posts with all photos saved by the forum direct method that limits one to 5 photos per post/reply.