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Opioid problem

#1 Post by Hippycrowe » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:39 pm

://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/23/opio ... tives.html


Ok 1st off I take Percocet because of a herniated disk in my back. To get them you must go to a pain management Dr who tries many other things before giving them to you. When some one says going to a chiropractor can solve most problems they are an idiot. The chiropractor can do some good but going to long does much more damage than good,muscle relaxers are not good on you long term either besides in Ohio workers comp will not pay for more than 1 script anymore. So Chinese medicine how many insurance companies pay for it now some but it is not 100 percent efective.

Now injections to deaden the nerves where the pain is. 9 times out of 10 workers comp won't pay so you have to have your lawer file an appeal it take 6 months and then another 2 to get treatment. Now try any inflammatory drugs take them long enough and you get a hole in your stomach.

My whole point is you can't prescribe so many of them but some people are going to have to take them. you also have to force insurance companies and workmans comp to change there polices and pay for better treatments but politicians want to just put a band aid on it and say look I did some thing didn t help but I did some thing.

And boy some of you won't like this but most people I know who got hooked on heroin started off smoking pot and wanted a better high. Its going to take alot more to solve the problem than what these politicians think a whole new way of thinking must be taught to these people who want to be high all the time.

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#2 Post by OldGrouchyGuy » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:11 pm

I hurt my back pretty bad early this year and had to take muscles relaxers , steroids, anti inflammatory and painkillers for about a month. Thankfully I got better and don't need to take them anymore. I had to get the prescription refilled twice but still have some of those from the last time it was refilled that I am saving in case I ever hurt my back again.

I worry that people who really need those for bona fide pain , won't be able to get them with this recent crackdown.

Its like that with everything- A few jerks spoil it for the vast majority of responsible people.
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#3 Post by Ghoulardi » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:38 pm

I spent 20 years in the Army in a combat MOS, god my body went through hell and back, I was surprised that the only big issue I have is arthritis in my shoulders and hearing loss , but I bet everyone that was ever in a combat MOS also suffer from hearing loss
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#4 Post by ffuries » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:40 pm

23 years in the USAF hauling heavy survival equipment around took a toll on my back. I have herniated and compressed discs in my lumbar region, basically degenerative disc disorder, with severe nerve damage in my legs. I'm lucky in that I have no issues getting my meds, injections, or physical therapy. When it comes time for injections they put me on Hydrocodone for pain, otherwise I'm on Tramadol for pain and the muscle relaxer Baclofen. I'm one of the few they don't have issues with, as I take my meds as prescribed and I don't shop around for doctors to get more, which I have learned is an issue nowadays. I see a lot of the same patients doing drug tests every time they are seen, whereas I get popped once in a while.

Plus my insurance pays for all my appointments with no out of pocket expenses, no referrals or pre authorizations needed. Meds are free if I fill them on base, if done off base they are still pretty cheap.

Yes there are side affects to taking the meds, but my heart meds are worse. The med I'm on to control AFIB is Amiodarone, which requires me to have a pulmonary study done every 6 months. One of the side affects of the med is it can lead to lung disease and cause Pulmonary Fibrosis. My Cardiologist says it not a matter of if, but a matter of when it will happen.
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#5 Post by Popeye » Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:14 am

I get mine from the VA. They got hinkey a few years back about the 'opioid epidemic' and stopped refilling scripts. My 'gatekeeper' doc bought into the hype. I had to get my scripts reissued at VA Speciality Clinics.

Its hard to be nice to people when you hurt. That's the problem!

The BS has quieted down since then. I have a new 'gatekeeper' doc, a good one. Scripts are renewed without major problems.
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#6 Post by Hippycrowe » Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:39 am

Its no fun having a bad back I have had surgery 15 injections when that disc goes priblems start. I don't mind being in pain but the pain killers help take the edge off. Too many pharmaceutical companies were paying Drs in Virginia $250 -$350 for the 1st pain pill prescription they got people hooked so they could sell more and more.

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#7 Post by ffuries » Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:05 am

Hippycrowe wrote:
Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:39 am
Its no fun having a bad back I have had surgery 15 injections when that disc goes priblems start. I don't mind being in pain but the pain killers help take the edge off. Too many pharmaceutical companies were paying Drs in Virginia $250 -$350 for the 1st pain pill prescription they got people hooked so they could sell more and more.
Kinda like cigarettes if we give them to them, they'll become hooked, after that we'll get rich! Drug companies are the same way, looking for the next niche drug to hook people on, so to allow themselves to become even richer.....Greedy SOB's create the epidemic, then come up with a fix, before starting the vicious circle all over again!
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#8 Post by cwo4uscgret » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:43 pm

Twenty-six of my thirty years on active duty were spent in the Coast Guard; with another 10-1/2 years on the border with Customs. A lot of the "War against Drugs." For decades I've been saying as long as people are willing to put drugs in their bodies there'll be a demand for them.

On the personal note - like many people I suffer from long term chronic pain issues primarily in my lumbar spine. Bulging, herniated, arthritic discs and vertebrae are the norm for me now. I've been on a daily regimen of long-term pain medications (including opioids) for the last 12 years. Monthly visits to the Primary Care Manager (or Pain Management Doctor) for refills; injections, minimally invasive spine surgery, and last week - Radio-frequency Ablation of the nerves (burning specific nerves in the spine to stop the transmission of the pain signal to the brain). The RF Ablation may hold some promise; I still end up with pain but I can do things longer so far then before. (Before I couldn't even stand for 10 minutes at the kitchen sink before the "burn").

Believe me I'd much rather not take the meds - but they are a necessary evil in my life for now...

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#9 Post by ffuries » Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:39 pm

True for me also, the meds are a necessary evil, otherwise I wouldn't make it through the day without pain. My ICD makes me ineligible for RF style injections and procedures. Surgery is in my near future, as the flare ups seem to come more frequently and much more severe. Just hope when it comes to that it will be helpful, I know there is no miracle surgery, but relief would be welcomed.
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