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.308 Ammo WARNING!

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.308 Ammo WARNING!

#1 Post by Rapidrob » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:50 am

Tulammo .308 Winchester Steel case, silver colored 150 grain FMJ bullet. Lot Number J304-16 30-12 .83
This ammo has had case head separations in a bolt rifle known to have SAFE head space. 8 out of ten cases were cracked 340 degrees around the base of the case. One failed completely letting the shooter know there was a problem. Other steel cased ammo and brass cased ammo shows no signs of any problems and had been fired hundred of times in this rifle.
The above ammo's steel case looks to be very brittle. Ammo was fired in '98 Mauser type rifles.
Shooter got gases blown back into their faces.
Firing this ammo could be very dangerous in a semi-auto rifle.
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#2 Post by 8thIDGrunt » Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:19 pm

Thank you for the warning.

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#3 Post by Hippycrowe » Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:43 pm

I am not impressed with Tula ammo shot some 7.62x39 I shoot left handed and a case came apart and cut my arm. It was small but still it should not happen glad ypu did not get hurt

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#4 Post by Rapidrob » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:26 am

I was spotting for the shooter. He's new to the shooting world and did not notice the split cases until the last one blew. We policed the fired cases and noticed the cracks.
A serch on the WWW found this is a problem everywhere. I called Tula Ammo and all they will do is refund the cost of the ammo. They did take down the lot numbers but did not want any samples back or the ammo itself.
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#5 Post by Hippycrowe » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:53 am

I learned you should not shoot cheap ammo in a good rifle ,Ak and SKS rifles seem to do ok with cheap steel case but 7.62x39 is not as high pressure as 308 or 30-06 .
I have heard of many times when guys blow up Garands using cheap steel case ammo

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#6 Post by dezzertrat » Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:14 pm

I almost bought some steel cased Russian ammo to try out my new C308 with.

I changed my mind and loaded some ammo using once fired military brass and surplus M80 bullets. The handloaded ammo worked great, no malfunctions, and so far almost all of the ejected cases are in good enough shape to load again.

After reading this thread, I won't be buying any steel cased ammo except for the SKS, where it seems to work fine.

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#7 Post by luigi » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:26 pm

Thanks Bob!

Had a couple of cases of commercial 308 brass ( remington, winchester ) separate on me after 1 reload. Now I only reload nato military ( thicker wall ) brass.

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#8 Post by Hippycrowe » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:20 am

I have noticed I only get 2 or 3 reloads out of Winchester and Remington in my Garand must be really cheap brass

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#9 Post by Ozzman » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:22 am

dezzertrat wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:14 pm
I almost bought some steel cased Russian ammo to try out my new C308 with.
Well, I did and I have been using Tula, Monarch, and Wolf .308 over the past 2 years in my C308.
Works great, no issues to date, and I can forget about picking up the disfigured cases.

The only downfall with the steel cases is the cleaning afterward.
Lacquer and soot fouling are a bear to remove from the chamber flutes, but is doable with some elbow grease and gasoline.
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#10 Post by Tommy Atkins » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:03 pm

I don't have a problem with steel per se, but I do have a problem with the fact its frequently shoddily made & out of spec.

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#11 Post by echo1 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:13 pm

Tula has gone down hill with the QC. It's been causing grief in SKSs also. I've got a pile of it from years ago that's run OK, but quit buying it altogether. PAX

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