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PCI 6.5x50 ammo

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:07 pm
by Hippycrowe
I bought 1 box of PCI brand 6.5 jap ammo and boy that stuff is junk. Had 2 out of 20 duds and 17 out of the remaining so low powered that the primers popped out. 1 round was much hotter and primer stayed right were it should be. The firing pin makes very nice dent in the primers so it seems long enough.

Re: PCI 6.5x50 ammo

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:51 pm
by ammolab
A lot of unhappy tales with PCI 7.7x58 Japanese ammo are around too.

Re: PCI 6.5x50 ammo

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:15 am
by FamilyFirearms
Yup, bought some of the Jap stuff off a customer when buying the rifle. Sold it to the guy who bought the rifle and first day at the range he had issues. Got 2 rounds off then a squib round. Luckily he caught it and when he jacked the bolt back, a somewhat gooey powder went all over the bench and it action.

Re: PCI 6.5x50 ammo

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 6:40 pm
by 72 usmc
Does Norma ring a bell, it should for the price , but it is sure fire- Ka boom. At $2 a round it best be :lol: :lol: :!:

https://www.grafs.com/catalog/product/productId/25187

Re: PCI 6.5x50 ammo

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 6:56 pm
by indy1919a4
So has anyone else had problem with PCI ammo in any other calibers??? I have seen this stuff for sale at shows but so far never needed any..

Re: PCI 6.5x50 ammo

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 9:44 am
by 72 usmc
Same problem with 7.7 PCI Jap. see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC5SVAW5EwA

also pistol ammo https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/do-no ... 2.1518479/ ERROR: :naughty: Precision One not PCI see ammo labs correction

PCI = Poor Crappy Ignition

Re: PCI 6.5x50 ammo

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 5:01 pm
by ammolab
72 usmc wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 9:44 am
Same problem with 7.7 Jap. see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC5SVAW5EwA

also pistol ammo https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/do-no ... 2.1518479/

PCI = Poor Crappy Ignition
The handgun ammo: Precision One, seems to be a separate crappy ammo outfit.

Re: PCI 6.5x50 ammo

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 6:33 pm
by 72 usmc
I missed that one. :snooty: Thanks ammo lab for clearing that up. He bees the expert on ammunition! :clap:
I have never used either, and with Arasaka's I stick with Norma and just reload it by neck sizing. So 2 different companies : Precision Cartridge Inc (PCI) in the black& yellow box
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And the Precision One company in the red & white box. Neither of which are offered in the local gun stores or hardware stores. I bet most will avoid both. :lol: :lol:
I would think for a pistol, most would buy factory Winchester, Remington, or Prvi Partizan Ammunition ( PPU). It always seems to go bang. :dance:
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Re: PCI 6.5x50 ammo

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 10:39 pm
by Zeliard
I got lucky with PCI, out of the 4 rounds I fired, all 4 went boom. Not exactly a ringing endorsement. As a friend of mine once said about a crappy electronics manufacturer: "Hey, everyone can screw up and make a good one every now and then". :)

Edit: After watching that video, YIKES. I'm gonna put what's left aside for pulling for components. Guess I got luckier than I thought!

Also found a Reddit thread talking about how it's trash: https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/ ... ave_a_bad/

Re: PCI 6.5x50 ammo

Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 10:54 am
by slowbob2
The guy on youtube does not really understand what and why it happened . First it was not a hangfire . What happened is not uncommon with several types of military rifles with ammo made by reloaders or even companies who do not understand how military rifles work . There is nothing wrong with the powder or primer . What causes this is a combination of factors , the more you have the more likely it will happen . 1. a bullet too small for the bore , mainly groove 2. an undersized case in an oversized chamber 3. a very long throat 4. a powder that is hard to light 5. cold weather . When the primer goes off it will move the bullet forward until it hits the rifling , then when it stops the powder will burn as it should . With the above factors the bullet does not come close to sealing the bore , it will not hold pressure , the powder does not light it is just melted by the primer . Rifles and calibers most effected by these factors are 7.7 mm Jap , 8mm Lebel , 8x56r , 6.5mm Jap , 8x50mm Man to name some .