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#1 Post by jaytex1969 » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:04 pm

Local fellow is selling a sealed can of 188 and 2 cans worth of "loose", still in the paper but not the tin, for about $300. (1250+/- total rounds)

I'm mostly interested in the sealed tin but will take the lot for the right price.

You think $250 would be a good offer?

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#2 Post by indy1919a4 » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:19 pm

That is less than 125 a can (considering you are getting extras) at a recent gun show saw people wanting 170 or so a can.. I remember not long ago some large ammo supplier selling cans in the 120 range (less shipping)..

I would be tempted to get at that price.. It may be a tad low, but closer to the price now.

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#3 Post by 72 usmc » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:42 pm

At our Fond du Lac gun show on Sat 19 jan 2019 a guy had 6 tins of Albanian 440 round sealed green tins at $125 a tin, there was one guy that had a silver tin of Bulgarian Russian Mosin ammo at 80 bucks, but it was a smaller tin and looked nasty on the outside maybe 300 rounds in the tin?? (after searching I think it had 220. see lower post link to sportsman guide) I have no idea. At the ammo guys table, he had green tins of 440 rounds at $150. I have no idea what type it was. Just some sort of Mosin ammo. SG ammo has tins with shipping costs added at $150, some have it at $170 then you most likely have $40 shipping. So at a gun show with no shipping charges is best. So figure at a gun show in WI you would pay 28 -30 cents per round.

Your ammo at $300 is 24 cents per round. It depends on what kind of ammo light ball, heavy ball, steel or brass case??? So I would say in my crazy world an offer of 20 cents per round is fair. 15 cents per round is a deal. Bulgarian silver smaller tins are the only ones that might be not up too par. Are they green long tins? .15x 1250= figure $187-200. Be sure its not Bulgarian, packages inside some tins are rotten paper and bullets can be pulled out by hand, with moisture clumped powder. But I got my Bulgarian for the bullet tips at 5 cents per round.
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#4 Post by indy1919a4 » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:57 pm

72 usmc wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:42 pm
. Be sure its not Bulgarian, packages inside some tins are rotten paper and bullets can be pulled out by hand, with moisture clumped powder. But I got my Bulgarian for the bullet tips at 5 cents per round.
Is this an issue with alot of Bulgarian tins??.. Is the issue that moisture got in them and rotted the paper & powder.. or is the rotting paper the problem??? I remember getting a large tin of 8mm yugo, the boxes had started to decay in the tin..White paper bits like snow when you opened it.. But the ammo fired Yugo fine..

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#5 Post by 72 usmc » Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:20 pm

These are the tins our Fleet & Farm store got and people returned them about ten years ago because it was bad ammo at $45 a tin of 300 rounds. I dug one of my old stock tins out for photos. The oxidized tin( unpainted) measures 10 3/4 "x 6 1/4" with a depth of 3 1/2'. It contains 300 rounds in rotten paper packets. Not in paper cardboard boxes. The store had the local police pick it all up and destroy it. I knew a guy that worked in the back and he sold 8 tins at $15 each to me. I selected the best tins I could find that are lacking rot holes in the corners. Brittle brass, normal ball, no colored tip. Cracked shoulders allowed the bullet to fall out or be able to be pulled out by hand. Due to tiny, pin size rust holes, if water was in the tin all the paper was moldy and brass tarnished. Some tins had numerous pin size rust or corrosion holes on the metal can corners. On others, some the solder joints broke loose. Most of these tins were no longer air tight which caused the ammo to go bad. Those tins were really trash. Most of mine does fire, but paper is moldy smelling and falling too pieces and the necks are cracked on some with the bullet lose and powder falling out into the paper. You got to do a check prior to loading so you have intact rounds. If you see neck cracks ,it is a cartridge to pull the tip and not fire. Sort of like the Polish Tokarev brass with the neck splits. These rounds have a tendency to split when fired so I just use it to pull the bullets. I also found some that did not fire that have clumped powder. Here is a picture of the garbage, brass case, Bulgarian 7.62x54R to watch out for. It is only good for the bullet tip. i found my old note . It is brass case light ball, 10 rounds per pink wrapped packet headstamp 10 , 54 In the old forum there was a post" A LOOK INSIDE 7.62x54 Bulgarian...
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http://www.mosinnagant.net/b6lgaria.asp

Found it Zelliard reconstructed Carteacho's post: :dance: :dance: :clap: :clap:
see http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewto ... f=67&t=309

Normal silver tip Bulgarian in the green 440 round tins is fine.
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#6 Post by 72 usmc » Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:38 pm

I have never seen a tin of 188 rounds . Could it be this stuff 220 rounds per tin?
https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product ... ?a=1133349
Look at the loose stuff and see the headstamp and ID the ammo and see what you have prior to purchase. Any pictures of the tin or headstamp? Is the headstamp 188?

In any event at 1250 x.20= $250 is OK. Just be sure its a good quality ammo. Yellow or silver tip is even better. Research the headstamp. Look at the rim is it thick or thin, different Mosins like different ammo.
If it is headstamp 188 it is great ammo. Is it this: Novosibirsk 188 :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:
see https://forums.gunboards.com/showthread ... d-LVE-Ammo

see http://www.lveplant.ru/pages_en.php?id=07


If it's this stuff, grab it, look for the white box. The good stuff is around 40-50 cents a round. Stop reading , run, and buy it at $250 :clap: :drool: :drool:
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#7 Post by jaytex1969 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:31 am

The ones I'm looking at are factory 188. The sealed one is from '81 and the head stamp on some of the loose ones are mid 70's. Light ball copper washed steel case.

I think I'll wait a day and then make the $250 offer. I'm still sitting on 4 or 5 crates, so I'm not desperate.


Thanks for the review!

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#8 Post by Charles Lipscomb » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:09 pm

Sgammo.com has russian made tins of 440 and cases of two tins with can opener. They were pulled from the wood cases oversaes and repacked in pairs into heavy cardboard boxes. 178.99 for one, plus shipping. Save by buying two.
Classic firearms has them as well but for 189,99 . They posted an unboxing video.
Though i haven't tried the 7,62x54r from sgammo a
I can say from buying other ammo they are top notch on prices and shipping.
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#9 Post by jaytex1969 » Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:19 pm

Well, there are still a few deals left, on lucky occasions.

The seller agreed to my offer of $250 and my buddy split the purchase with me, so I got one sealed tin of Russian 188 light ball from 1981, a can opener and 240 rounds of assorted 70's-80's factory 188 in the 20 round paper wraps for $125 or about 0.18/round.

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Thanks again for bringing me up to date on things.


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#10 Post by Stew15948 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:59 am

Factory 188, 440 rounds. You got it all for a great price. I’ve sold a few cans locally and had to be at $130 for 440/rd can for it to move it seems.

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#11 Post by Charles Lipscomb » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:04 am

Last weekends gun show a guy had a sealed tin just like this for 110. Mom epuldn't let me buy it. Saying she didn't want to cartry it out to the truck.
She was in a mood as she hates crowds, or i woild have argued she wouldn't have to carry it as i could put in my lap and let my wheelchair handle the weight. :) I would not have won that argument and may well have had to roll my ass home in said chair. :D.
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#12 Post by jaytex1969 » Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:22 am

A retired navy commander once told me:

There's only two things you need to now about women, and no one knows either of them...

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#13 Post by Charles Lipscomb » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:58 pm

jaytex1969 wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:22 am
A retired navy commander once told me:

There's only two things you need to now about women, and no one knows either of them...
I know enough not to mess with my mom. :)
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#14 Post by jaytex1969 » Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:12 pm

Yes, moms are entitled. They went through the trauma and agony of rearing US....

Not sure how I read that as referring to a significant other. Never post before coffee! :roll:

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