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Reloads for Webley Mark IV .38 S&W

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Reloads for Webley Mark IV .38 S&W

#1 Post by Kevinofborg » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:24 am

In my post here:

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I may have said that I was in contact with the author of the linked website on Enfield Snub Nosed No 2s and he sent me some 165g cast boolits.

The boolits are 165-grain hollow base bullets meant for the .38 Long Colt. He said he loaded it as such - loaded into the .38 S&W case over 2.5 grains of Red Dot powder and he got 685 F-P out of a 3" barreled S&W New Departure. He stated that the Webley is a pretty stout gun: you could likely push that bullet a bit faster from it without problems.

So as a new to cast re-loaded I asked him about the boolits, lube and gas checks for the ones that I received from him.

He replied with Nope, they're ready to go. The hollow base is designed to expand on firing to fill the rifling. The .38 S&W uses a slightly larger bullet than the standard .38 Special (0.360") and these will fill the grooves.
With cast bullets, usually you size them to be a thousandth or two large than nominal groove diameter. These should work well in your Webley. A solid based bullet you'd need to size to 0.361" or so.

They're lubed with "Lee Liquid Alox," which is very convenient to use, especially if you don't have a lubricator/sizer tool. If you ever buy a mold to cast your own, look for a Lee "Tumble Lube" design in the 0.360 +/- size, and use the Liquid Alox lubricant. But as they are, they'll work in any nominally ".38" caliber cartridge.

The slug of the 5 inch barrel for my Webley is .361"

So with that background and my lack of years of doing this I wanted to ask the smart people here what they thought and what my plan is (and that can change) is to load some as follows:

qty 12 at 2.3g of Red Dot
qty 12 at 2.4g of Red Dot
qty 12 at 2.5g of Red Dot

All watching for sticky ejection and review of the spent primers. Thoughts?

Thanks,
Kevin

BTW I did order some of these:

http://www.mattsbullets.com/index.php?m ... =72&produc
ts_id=283&zenid=plj0o0fv3skgips8ea7f39stc3

And this link talking about some loads:

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthr ... olit-load-
in-38-S-amp-W-for-Webley-amp-Scott
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Re: Reloads for Webley Mark IV .38 S&W

#2 Post by Rapidrob » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:35 pm

The loads are about right. The bullet diameter will be a problem for accuracy.
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Re: Reloads for Webley Mark IV .38 S&W

#3 Post by Kevinofborg » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:42 pm

Well I finial did it. I have pulled the trigger on my first handloads.

I used the 165g bullets TC sent me using:

qty 12 at 2.3g of Red Dot
qty 12 at 2.4g of Red Dot
qty 12 at 2.5g of Red Dot

and I loaded 5 with the 200g bullets I bought using 2.5g ofUnique.

I still have all my fingers and the Webley with the 5 inch barrel show very well.

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Re: Reloads for Webley Mark IV .38 S&W

#4 Post by Kevinofborg » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:45 pm

some more.

The ones in at the top of the big black circle are the 200g at 2.5g. These shot high.

Question - if I dropped it to 2.4g would that lower the impact? In all I was shooting center of target.

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