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Load For 200 Grain 38S&W Bullet

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Load For 200 Grain 38S&W Bullet

#1 Post by SWIHARTMARK » Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:52 pm

I finally got a mold to cast 200 grain bullets for my two milsurp revolvers that shoot that old British 38S&W round with a 200 grain bullet. The mold casts at .365 and I have a homemade .361 sizer, so I hope to do this right.

Anyways, I only have Unique pistol powder and I could use some load data. The guns shoot normal 38S&W just fine, but that 200 grain round nose bullet is a piece of work to behold. Any information you can provide would be appreciated.

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Re: Load For 200 Grain 38S&W Bullet

#2 Post by ammolab » Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:34 pm

I have loaded 2 types of 200gr .361" cast bullets that I bought online. One in the shape of the latter jacketed bullet and another very blunt bullet like the lead original.

Both were very accurate over 2.2gr of Unique (620fps MV). Good enough to hit a moving man sillouette target 3 out of 6 shots @200 yards.

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Re: Load For 200 Grain 38S&W Bullet

#3 Post by SWIHARTMARK » Wed Oct 25, 2017 5:22 pm

Looks like 2.2 grains it is. I'll stick to 25 yards max, unless I want to "Go Hollywood" as I say when shooting at over 25 yards. I'll go ahead an lube up some bullets, let them dry and then size them.

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Re: Load For 200 Grain 38S&W Bullet

#4 Post by Patman1951 » Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:06 pm

Do you have any pictures of the bullets showing their overall shape?
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Re: Load For 200 Grain 38S&W Bullet

#5 Post by SWIHARTMARK » Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:11 pm

It is a .364" NOE mold with the very round nose, not the pointier one. The ball nose is practically the same diameter of the bullet. It likely is a copy of the original one used in WWII. I used a 20-1 lead tin mix when I casted them and they came out very shiny. I lubed them yesterday with ALOX and hope to size them Sunday. After I put the bullet into the case, I'm going to wipe off the ALOX with some mineral spirits and get them shiny again. They should look incredible after that. OSU-PENN State is tomorrow, so it will have to wait till after then. Priorities are priorities.

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BTW, I got the two cavity aluminum mold, the base model. I skipped the Lee Precision one since I don't think it would clean up when I would size them as they advertised it being used in far too many calibers for me to feel it would do 38S&W the .361" after sizing it deserves.

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#6 Post by Patman1951 » Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:55 am

Thanks for the information about the mold and casting. I have a Webley and would like to put together some proper loads for it.
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Re: Load For 200 Grain 38S&W Bullet

#7 Post by ammolab » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:54 pm

Here is what I shoot:
L to R
Western Bullet Co 200gr .361" Mk1
Matts Bullets 200gr .361" profile of Mk2
FN FMJ 178gr Mk2z
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Re: Load For 200 Grain 38S&W Bullet

#8 Post by Rapidrob » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:21 pm

ammolab's loads are some of the most accurate for your pistol I've seen in action. and yes,he did hit a moving target at 200 yards with his pistol/loads.
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Re: Load For 200 Grain 38S&W Bullet

#9 Post by SWIHARTMARK » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:56 pm

Looks like my bullet is the Mk1. You got an over all length on that one? I was just going to eye ball it and compare it to my Lee load data for a 195 grain bullet.

I've hit a stationary man sized target in the groin at 100 yards with a 8" barreled 44 mag. I think that scene has been done in the show South Park by the character Butters. My first time with a 1911, I dumped the whole magazine into the head at conceal carry range (9 paces) and immediately said, "You need training for this?!?"

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Re: Load For 200 Grain 38S&W Bullet

#10 Post by Rapidrob » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:45 pm

The "Man-Stopper" load has a trajectory of a cinder block, but it uses the old proven ballistics of a heavy,slow moving bullet is accurate and deadly.
We have shot these loads at our close range (25 & 50 yard) AR500 steel targets that must fall over to be counted or knock a hinged target backward for automatic resetting and the load has no problem doing it. The bullet does not disintegrate when it hits a hard target as others do but it does transfer most of its energy into the target.
The cartridge and it's bullet was well thought out for use in combat in it's day.
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