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VA goes 90% "Sanctuary" status!

#1 Post by Tommy Atkins » Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:50 am

Stirred awake by Democratic proposals to take, register, and possibly seize their legally obtained weapons, Virginia gun owners in just 43 days have pushed 90% of the state’s counties to become gun “sanctuaries,” the latest three on Monday night.

Since the Nov. 5 election that gave Democrats control of Richmond, an “organic,” pro-gun movement has prompted the governments of 86 of Virginia’s 95 counties, as well as 15 towns and cities, to adopt some type of sanctuary language, putting Gov. Ralph Northam and other liberals on notice that their gun control plans aren’t welcome.
“I did not think it would be that high of a number,” said sanctuary advocate and Culpeper County Sheriff Scott Jenkins.
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#2 Post by Ghoulardi » Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:47 pm

nice gesture, but it's not going to fly
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#3 Post by Tommy Atkins » Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:51 pm

Why not?

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#4 Post by Ghoulardi » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:57 am

because virgina is not a home rule state, local municipalities can't make laws more stringent or more lax then state law.

even in home rules states, for instance like Ohio, the Ohio SC ruled that home rule has limits to what cities can and can't make laws. they ruled that cities such as Cleveland, Columbus etc... could not make gun laws more stringent then the state laws, when Cleveland and others made laws banning ARs, AKs etc... and high capacities mags.

if the SC let that stand, then the state would just be a hodgepodge patchwork of different municipalities making up their own laws (besides guns) that is not consistent with what state laws are, so traveling though those cities a person wouldn't even know if he broke any laws. it would be like each municipality was it's own "little kingdoms" or "balkanized" within a state

like I said, it's a nice gesture
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#5 Post by Tommy Atkins » Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:17 pm

Actually they have a unique clause in the State constitution that does allow for it legally.
https://www.stephenhalbrook.com/law_rev ... tution.pdf

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#6 Post by Tommy Atkins » Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:18 pm

& at this rate its a De Facto done deal anyway no matter what.
VIRGINIA FIREARM SANCTUARIES as of 12/21/19

Counties/Cities Adopted:
Accomack County - Adopted on Dec. 18. 2019 (Slightly modified version)
Alleghany County - Adopted on Dec. 3, 2019
Amelia County - Adopted on Dec. 18, 2019
Amherst County - Adopted on Dec. 3, 2019
Appomattox County - Adopted on Nov. 18, 2019
Augusta County - Adopted on Dec. 4, 2019
Bath County - Adopted on Dec. 10, 2019
Bedford County - Adopted on Dec. 9, 2019
Bland County - Adopted on Nov. 26, 2019
Botetourt County - Adopted on Nov. 26, 2019
City of Bristol - Adopted on Dec. 9, 2019 (Slightly modified version)
Brunswick County - Adopted on Dec. 11, 2019 (Confirmed with county administration)
Buchanan County - Adopted on Dec. 2, 2019
Buckingham County - Adopted on Dec. 9, 2019
Campbell County - Adopted on Nov. 7, 2019
Caroline County - Adopted on Dec. 10, 2019
Carroll County - Adopted on May 13, 2019
Charlotte County - Adopted Nov. 13, 2019
City of Chesapeake - Adopted on Dec. 10, 2019
City of Colonial Heights - Adopted on Dec. 10, 2019
City of Covington - Adopted on Dec. 10, 2019
Craig County - Adopted Dec. 5, 2019
Culpeper County - Adopted Dec. 3, 2019
Cumberland County - Adopted on Dec. 10, 2019
Dickenson County - Adopted on Nov. 19, 2019
Dinwiddie County - Adopted on Nov. 20, 2019
Floyd County - Adopted on Dec. 10, 2019
Fluvanna County - Adopted on Dec. 11, 2019
City of Franklin - Adopted on Dec. 9, 2019
Franklin County - Adopted on Dec. 17, 2019
Frederick County - Adopted on Dec. 11, 2019
City of Galax - Adopted on Dec. 9, 2019 (Slightly modified version)
Giles County - Adopted on Nov. 21, 2019
Gloucester County - Adopted on Dec. 3, 2019
Goochland County - Adopted on Dec. 3, 2019
Grayson County - Adopted on Dec. 12, 2019
Greene County - Adopted on Dec. 10, 2019
Greensville County - Adopted on Dec. 3, 2019
Halifax County - Adopted on Dec. 2, 2019
Hanover County - Adopted on Dec. 11, 2019
Henrico County - Adopted on Dec. 10, 2019 (Slightly modified version)
Henry County - Adopted on Nov. 26, 2019
Isle of Wight County - Adopted on Dec. 12, 2019
James City County - Approved resolution to affirm its commitment to the constitutions of the United States and Virginia on Dec. 10, 2019
King and Queen County - Adopted on Dec. 9, 2019 (Confirmed with county government)
King George County - Adopted on Dec. 3, 2019
King William County - Adopted on Nov. 25, 2019
Lancaster County - Adopted on Dec. 12, 2019
Lee County - Adopted on Nov. 19, 2019
Louisa County - Adopted on Dec. 2, 2019
Lunenburg County - Adopted on Dec. 12, 2019 (Confirmed with county administration)
Mathews County - Adopted on Dec. 17, 2019
Madison County - Adopted on Nov. 26, 2019
City of Martinsville - Passed slightly modified resolution on Dec. 10, 2019
Mecklenburg County - Adopted on Dec. 9, 2019
Middlesex County - Adopted on Dec. 3, 2019
Montgomery County - Adopted on Dec. 16, 2019 (Slightly modified version)
Nelson County - Adopted on Dec. 10, 2019
New Kent County - Adopted on Nov. 27, 2019
Northampton County - Passed slightly modified resolution on Dec. 10, 2019
Northumberland County - Adopted on Dec. 12 (Confirmed with county administration)
City of Norton - Adopted on Dec. 3, 2019
Nottoway County - Adopted on Nov. 21, 2019
Orange County - Adopted on Dec. 3, 2019
Page County - Adopted on Dec. 3, 2019
Patrick County - Adopted on Nov. 18, 2019
Pittsylvania County - Adopted on Nov. 19, 2019
City of Poquoson - Adopted on Dec. 9, 2019
Powhatan County - Adopted on Nov. 25, 2019
Prince Edward County - Adopted on Dec. 17, 2019
Prince George County - Adopted on Dec. 10, 2019
Prince William County - Adopted on Dec. 10, 2019 (Expected to be overturned by newly elected Board)
Pulaski County - Approved on Dec. 16, 2019
Rappahannock County - Adopted on Dec. 2, 2019
Richmond County - Adopted on Dec. 12, 2019 (Confirmed with county administration)
Roanoke County - Adopted on Dec. 3, 2019
Rockbridge County - Adopted on Dec. 9, 2019
Rockingham County - Adopted on Dec. 11, 2019
Russell County - Adopted on Dec. 2, 2019
Scott County - Adopted on Dec. 4, 2019
Shenandoah County - Adopted on Dec. 9, 2019
Smyth County - Adopted on Dec. 10, 2019
Southampton County - Adopted on Nov. 25, 2019
Spotsylvania County - Adopted on Dec. 10, 2019
Stafford County - Adopted on Dec. 17, 2019
Surry County - Adopted on Dec. 5, 2019
Sussex County - Adopted Nov. 21, 2019
Tazewell County - Adopted on Dec. 3, 2019
Warren County - Adopted on Dec. 10, 2019 (Confirmed with county administration)
Washington County - Adopted on Nov. 26, 2019
Westmoreland County - Adopted on Dec. 11, 2019 (Confirmed with county administration)
Wise County - Adopted on Dec. 12, 2019
Wythe County - Adopted on Nov. 26, 2019
York County - Adopted on Dec. 17, 2019 (“Constitutional County”)

Towns Adopted:
Big Stone Gap - Adopted on Dec. 10, 2019 (Confirmed with town office)
Bluefield - Adopted on Dec. 10, 2019
Cedar Bluff - Adopted on Dec. 10, 2019
Crewe - Adopted on Dec. 9, 2019 (Confirmed with town office)
Exmore - Adopted on Dec. 2, 2019
Grottoes - Adopted on Dec. 9, 2019
Mineral - Adopted on Dec. 9, 2019 (Confirmed with town office)
Pulaski - Adopted on Dec. 17, 2019 (Confirmed with town manager)
Rocky Mount - Adopted on Dec. 9, 2019
Rural Retreat - Adopted on Nov. 26, 2019 (Confirmed with Town Council member)
Strasburg - Adopted on Dec. 10, 2019 (Slightly modified version)
Vinton - Adopted on Dec. 17, 2019

Upcoming Discussions:
Charles City County - Will be discussed on Dec. 23
City of Waynesboro - Will be discussed at a special meeting on Jan. 13, 2020

Will Not Become Second Amendment Sanctuary:
Albemarle County - Discussed on Dec. 4, no plans to put item on the agenda
Loudoun County - Discussed on Dec. 3
City of Radford - Discussed on Dec. 9
City of Roanoke - Discussed on Dec. 2
City of Staunton - Discussed on Dec. 13

Discussed, No Action Taken:
Chesterfield County - Discussed on Dec. 11, 2019
Essex County - Discussed on Dec. 10, Expected to be voted upon on Jan. 14
Fauquier County -Discussed on Dec. 12, Vote expected on Dec. 23
City of Lynchburg - Discussed on Dec. 10, public hearing scheduled for Jan. 14
City of Virginia Beach - Mentioned during Open Mic night on Dec. 3, No action taken at this time
City of Winchester - Discussed on Dec. 10

Remaining Counties/Cities not listed above:

Counties:
Arlington, Clarke, Fairfax, Highland

Cities:
Alexandria, Buena Vista, Charlottesville, Danville, Emporia, Fairfax, Falls Church, Fredericksburg, Hampton, Harrisonburg, Hopewell, Lexington, Manassas, Manassas Park, Newport News, Norfolk, Petersburg, Portsmouth, Richmond, Salem, Suffolk, Williamsburg

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#7 Post by DaleH » Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:46 pm

Virginia Attorney General Mark R. Herring issued an opinion Friday that there is no legal weight to the "Second Amendment sanctuary" resolutions being passed in localities around the state in reaction to potential new gun-control laws.

Virginia counties declare gun sanctuaries, but experts say they ‘don’t have force of law’. “There’s no ability for citizens in any of these Second Amendment sanctuaries to assert that they don’t have to comply with state law,” Schragger said. “The sheriffs and local officers have to comply with state law, and the state police will enforce state law,” Schragger added.

Going to be interesting, and a lot of lawsuits ...

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#8 Post by TNGhost » Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:15 am

Definitely worth watching.

It may turn out to be a "blueprint" or at least an indication of how things are going to go in the future nationwide between the red rural areas, and the blue urban ones.

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