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7.65 French Long.

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7.65 French Long.

#1 Post by Tuna » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:03 am

There is a man who has contracted with Starline brass to produce new 7.65 French Long brass. He is selling the brass in bags of 250 cases for $110 delivered. This is much better then having to make due with 32 S&W long with the rims turned down and an extractor grove cut. The gentleman is Hugh Long 8 Highgate West, Augusta, GA. His email in hughlongii@ aol.com.

I have no connection to this gentleman and am just passing this information on. Oh and my order is in for a bag.

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Re: 7.65 French Long.

#2 Post by 72 usmc » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:02 pm

Is this new made to French specifications or some other brass cut to fit that only works half the time. When you get yours can you measure and compare it to an original steel case ? Could you post a few photos. Old french long starline brass was problematic, but this was around 1999 -2001?
Swihartmark was the only machinest that could cut brass with a correct angle that actually functioned like the original steel case cartridges. There are lots of old posts about the french long ammo. Maybe send him one case to measure and he can report on its specs. See our many old French Long posts. I wonder if they used 65 degrees or 60 degrees????

see viewtopic.php?f=43&t=162

viewtopic.php?f=43&t=1557

From the old forum and chopped up missing photos:
viewtopic.php?f=43&t=551
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Re: 7.65 French Long.

#3 Post by Tuna » Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:37 pm

The only company that I am aware of to make this brass before was Bertram out of Australia. Terrible brass at it's best. This is brand new made to proper dimension brass. I was told the trial pieces worked perfectly. That is all I know about this new brass. It will be a few weeks before he has the brass from Starline. I have two pistols ready and waiting to try it out.

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#4 Post by 72 usmc » Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:21 am

Odd that Starline would produce & tool up a factor to spec, new brass cartridge headstamped for the .32 French long and not continue to offer it on their web page or company. It would sell like crazy. Ammunition producers would buy a ton & begin to put .32 French long into production. Very odd. Please let us know how it functions in both pistols. Thanks for the information.
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#5 Post by 72 usmc » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:17 pm

Some video, but some incorrect info., especially about the die. I use a CH4D .32 French Longue ( Mas) 7.65 pistol die set and RCBS special .32 french long shell holder ( RCBS shell holder #57170) and with shipping it came to $127 about 8 years ago. What I could never understand Prvi makes ammo for the Russian Nagant , but not for the French .32 long pistols. It would sell like crazy. The French 1935 series pistols make the Nagant a piece of garbage.

.32 french long cartridge

Part 1 Mike Beliveau
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bt-6Ijhphw

Part 2 Mike Beliveau
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrerq-TaHr0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOR_kdYEcz8

Some updated info & your posts on Gunboards:
https://forums.gunboards.com/showthread ... -65-Longue

For readers that may not know about these great little pistols:
The French Model 1935A or the 1935S pistol isn't something seen too often at gun shows. Problem: the .32 French Long cartridge is obsolete. No Factory ammo.
For info about the pistol see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OamV22m4PLo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWZnr9SYSLQ

DO NOT FORGET THE 1935S
https://unblinkingeye.com/Guns/F1935S/f1935s.html

http://www.smallarmsreview.com/display. ... ticles=271



Mike Venturino has an article in an old issue of Handloader magazine, February 2011, Number 270, "Hardballs and Oddballs" in which he describes reloading for the 7.65 MAS (.32 french long ammo) for his own French 1935A.

Page 34 see how to get a copy here:
https://www.wolfeoutdoorsports.com/hand ... -feb-2011/
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Re: 7.65 French Long.

#6 Post by Tuna » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:49 pm

I managed to get in on a group buy of 7.65 dies sets from Lee. Nice dies and work fine. Now I have the brass coming, bullets coming and I already have power and primers waiting. So in about 2 to 3 weeks I should be ready to load and go shooting. I will let you know how the brass is when I get it.

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#7 Post by butcharoot » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:25 am

Here is a link to the brass, the price has went up $10. https://forums.gunboards.com/showthread ... y-Starline.

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Re: 7.65 French Long.

#8 Post by Tuna » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:14 am

72 usmc, Starline had only thought about making this case and had not intended to make it for quite sometime. But Mr. Long made a contract with Starline to make it for him. This way Starline does not have to hold onto it till it's all sold and can in the future if Mr. Long should say OK, they can then make it and sell it themselves. Starline will make any case one might want if there is a big enough order (100,000 rounds min. I think)

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Re: 7.65 French Long.

#9 Post by 72 usmc » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:22 pm

Thank you, Sounds like I will buy from him if it is properly headstamped and correctly to specs after you see how your batch works. If he has 100,000 he may not mind if I buy one order of 250, if they work. I shall await your results and measurements. :clap: :clap:

I wish Mr Hugh Long would provide the rim base thickness, OAL of case, and the angle degree used on the brass and if it is properly marked. I wonder just how close to the original French cases it will be?
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