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ca. 1905 c96 broomhandle. interesting marks

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ca. 1905 c96 broomhandle. interesting marks

#1 Post by dynachrome » Wed Nov 08, 2017 5:13 pm

Well, I took a flyer on this at the local gunshop.
No import mark.
All matching including last 3 digits underneath the grips.
5 digit serial # ties to about 1905, so a pre war commercial. Possibly used in WW1 sometime?
Ulm proof marks.
no stock, case or holster.
On top of the barrel is marked "Manufacture Francais d'armes et cycles St. Etienne" which seems to be a mail order sporting goods store. (they sold the Hirondelle bicycle)
Link: https://manufrance.wordpress.com/1-manu ... t-etienne/

Any info would be appreciated, as there does not seem to be any info on how many of these were marked and sold in France.

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#2 Post by indy1919a4 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:06 pm

Here are some other guns they sold under their name

http://www.phoenixinvestmentarms.com/Hi ... nch9mm.htm

http://www.littlegun.info/arme%20franca ... o%20fr.htm

attached a few pages of their catalog.. the sad news is your Broomhandle is pictured on the other page from the Luger..
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#4 Post by dynachrome » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:23 pm

Thanks! Heck, I bought the dang thing before I even noticed the French marking on the barrel. I guess now I will have to try and scavenge an original stock/holster for a reasonable price. Not likely as originals go for near what I paid for the gun.
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#5 Post by indy1919a4 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:29 am

Well I tell you this "little" catalog company is getting to be one Hell of an operation... 1st this this is not a company like SEARS, it is a large manufacturing
empire that has been making firearms since Napoleon. In fact they did for years "Manufacture d'armes de Saint-Étienne" uses the initials MAS which we all know and love.. They seem to have either manufactured the items in their catalogs or at least put their mark on their items...

There is not a lot of ready info on them.. this is an interesting find

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#6 Post by dynachrome » Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:50 pm

Update: It does have a worn "NA Co" import mark. I was able to field strip it and get it back together and the internal parts have the last 3 of the serial number on them (forgot to look at firing pin closely). Had some issues getting it back together properly. Could have used 3 hands, haha. have the proper 7.63 Mauser ammo now and have to find time to shoot it.
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#8 Post by Roy mcleod » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:50 pm

Why are some of us , having the above type photo attachment PROBLEMS!!
LIKe, the attachment #,s no longer available!! Just WHAT are we doing wrong??
I, have posted 80 or more postings with photos and no problems.
NOW suddenly, we get the above problem, Again what are we doing wrong??
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#9 Post by 72 usmc » Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:40 am

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I got/get the same garbage when I try to remove photos and add a revised version. Best not to edit photos with the forum method. Get what you want then place in line as needed one at a time or the odd statement shows up and the old photo still stays put. This is especially true if you have an older system computer. It is best to post with the forum 5 limit per post photos, photo bucket is really bad now.
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