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Something I dug up

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:52 pm
by indy1919a4
I do want to toss my hat in on found guns.. We find them over here from time to time

This is something we found with a metal detector on our property about 30 years ago.. There is nothing that you can read on the gun and it is about 31 or 36 cal.. There is a lot of rust.

It is 5 shot and at least one ball is missing. I do not see any caps on it.

The wood is about half gone and every time you handle it it does loose little bits of the guns surface rust

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Re: Something I dug up

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:08 pm
by Charles Lipscomb
Pretty cool. All i have is a cw powder flask dug up in n.virginia and given to me when i was a kid. I do appriciate tgd gift though. :) i will have to dig it out soon.

Re: Something I dug up

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:09 pm
by Charles Lipscomb
I wonder what an electrolisis tank could do for this...

Re: Something I dug up

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:24 pm
by RWS
If the cylinder is unfluted it could well be a Colt Pocket Model of 1849. They were available with 3, 4, 5, & 6 inch barrels and 5-shot cylinders in either .31 or .36 calibers.

-Bob

Re: Something I dug up

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:52 pm
by Hammerdown
Imagine the cussing at the end of a long days ride after you find out your pistol fell out of your holster or saddle bag. :o :doh:

Re: Something I dug up

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:23 pm
by Charles Lipscomb
Hammerdown wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:52 pm
Imagine the cussing at the end of a long days ride after you find out your pistol fell out of your holster or saddle bag. :o :doh:
Or worse, friday night on the town. , one thing leads tk anitther and ypu slap leather over cards or a slpilled drink. Thats gonna be a bad five minutes as you bleed out on the floor.

Re: Something I dug up

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:37 pm
by indy1919a4
You guys are being to dramatic. It was probably some poor guy who took two shots at a rabbit and missed, Yells "you piece of inaccurate crap, this is the last time" and then then threw the gun in the bushes.

Re: Something I dug up

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:52 am
by Friedspam
Indy, I don't buy your less dramatic rendition, I have missed plenty of times and never got the desire to throw my firearm in the weeds. That pistol would have represented months of income to obtain. After careful study of the photos, I contend that pistol was lost during a high speed getaway from a stagecoach holdup.

Re: Something I dug up

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:53 am
by shoot4fun
Charles Lipscomb wrote:
Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:09 pm
I wonder what an electrolisis tank could do for this...
:handgestures-thumbupright:

Re: Something I dug up

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:13 am
by indy1919a4
Friedspam wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:52 am
Indy, I don't buy your less dramatic rendition, I have missed plenty of times and never got the desire to throw my firearm in the weeds. That pistol would have represented months of income to obtain. After careful study of the photos, I contend that pistol was lost during a high speed getaway from a stagecoach holdup.
Hey, I am sorry you all, I should be a little more open minded, I strived to minimize the story in the past, perhaps there is a happy medium...

Perhaps the Reno gang themselves.. Wish I had found it closer to Seymour Indiana, It may have had a chance then..

Now all seriousness aside, you are right about the firearm having value and being expensive in its day, no one would have tossed it... But lets go forward a few years, say its the 1890s, this gun has been Grandpas, tossed in a box for years.. a pain to load because its does not have cartridges.. SO at the time of the toss it could have not been looked at as costing money but as a old piece of crap.. Also let us not discount the shooter may have had a pint or 2 under his belt.

Re: Something I dug up

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:19 pm
by roverboy
shoot4fun wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:53 am
Charles Lipscomb wrote:
Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:09 pm
I wonder what an electrolisis tank could do for this...
:handgestures-thumbupright:
Yeah, that would be neat to see what it would look like with the rust removed. It would never look good but, would definitely make it a little more identifiable.

Re: Something I dug up

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:48 am
by vonalt
You mentioned Seymour IN, I use to live in Columbus, IN. If I recall didn't Morgan's Raid during the Civil War go through that area? Seymour and N. Vernon were in the raid's proximity. Could have been one of the raiders or one of the militiamen rushing to defend the Hoosier state that dropped it.

Re: Something I dug up

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:30 am
by indy1919a4
That would be the Great Battle of Corydon. Part of the Great 1863 General Morgan Raid. But they never got any further then Salem, which is souther then Seymour.. Corydon and Gettysburg represent the 2 great southern incursions into the North. But the Battle of Corydon only involved about 2500 people total.

After Indiana, Morgan turned East and went through the South of Ohio.

https://ironbrigader.com/2018/07/14/the ... n-indiana/

http://www.ohiohistorycentral.org/w/Morgan%27s_Raid

Re: Something I dug up

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:19 pm
by vonalt
From looking at this map he wasn't too far from the Seymour area. I will give you he stayed south of the Seymour. But isn't N Vernon due east of Seymour? I need to get back down there. Been 30 years since I was last in that area. See if my old house is still standing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan%27 ... ganmap.jpg

Re: Something I dug up

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:15 pm
by indy1919a4
vonalt wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:19 pm
From looking at this map he wasn't too far from the Seymour area. I will give you he stayed south of the Seymour. But isn't N Vernon due east of Seymour? I need to get back down there. Been 30 years since I was last in that area. See if my old house is still standing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan%27 ... ganmap.jpg
North Vernon is still further away from Seymour by 20 some miles. Even though it is norther then Salem we are getting more easter, and more miles away. Besides even if they were in Seymour thats still 50 miles south of where the gun was found. Once Morgan hit Dupont Indiana, this is where the real carnage takes place and to this day folks in that area will tell you how the Yankee army followed Morgans line of retreat by following the trail of ham bones they left behind.