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#1 Post by lamontagne0527 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:05 pm

Technically this could go in Italian pistols as well but i have an 1889 bodeo revolver made in 1896 and was wondering if i should load black powder loads just to be safe or if in fact a light charge of smokeless (i have several pounds of Trailboss) would be fine to use since trail boss itself is a very low pressure powder. Anyone have any thoughts or comments on whether its worth using smokeless or just stay with blackpowder rounds.

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#2 Post by patrick_ford » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:20 am

From the little I have read, the revolver can use black powder and smokeless equivalents. I think the major issue will be forming the brass and finding appropriate bullets that fit the bore of your gun.
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#3 Post by lamontagne0527 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:14 am

patrick_ford wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:20 am
From the little I have read, the revolver can use black powder and smokeless equivalents. I think the major issue will be forming the brass and finding appropriate bullets that fit the bore of your gun.
Already have a custom bullet sizing die on order from lee precision, my main concern was since it was manufactured fairly early on whether a 1896 made bodeo wouldnt be as strong as a bodeo made lets say in 1914 since the metal might be of different quality since 1896 is pretty early in the smokeless powder era. Im gonna keep debating with myself and decide whether to go smokeless or black, Its a real debate over here haha

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#4 Post by FamilyFirearms » Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:03 pm

We have about 3/4 box of reformed brass for one. His recipe for loads and on the side of the box.

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#5 Post by shoggoth80 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:48 pm

If in doubt load black?

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#6 Post by lamontagne0527 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:11 pm

sounds about right, was the service load used in the Bodeo utilizing a heeled bullet?

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#7 Post by lamontagne0527 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:04 pm

After finally getting in my bullet sizer from lee and gathering all of the components and making my right arms bicep larger than my left with all of the brass lathe trimming i was able to put together 50 cartridges and used approx 3.6 grains of a low yield powder that fired the rounds perfectly. The bullets went wild which was likely my fault since the trigger is heavy and stiff even in single action.

On a side note i was periodically getting punctured primers so im simply drilling out the primer pocket a thousandth or so to deepen it slightly. Will update again when i am able to retry my loads.

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#8 Post by lamontagne0527 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:16 pm

Got back from the range earlier this morning and I'm getting better on the trigger control for this revolver even though the trigger is maybe 8-10 lbs in single action. I put up a standard 8 1/2 x 11 piece of paper and about 95% of the shots were within the piece of paper at 30ft which for a 121 year old antique is fairly impressive in my mind. Considering its hand turned ammo and a fairly mild load i'd call it a success :)

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