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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:12 pm 
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Here are a couple photos of my first Turkish rifle.
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A Gewehr 88 modified in 1940 at Ankara. Is there a way to date the original manufacture of the rifle? The metal plate on the bottom is dated 1914 and the serial number is just under 15,000.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:57 pm 
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Beautiful Gew 88! I am not sure there is a way to accurately date your Turkish rifle. When in doubt consult Scarlatta's book on the Gew 1888.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:20 am 
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Nice looking rifle! Unless there is a trace of the original receiver marking that can be read after the scrubbing, then pretty much impossible as said. All of the unconverted Turk 88/05's I've seen have been a mix of parts from different rifles. The 1914 date is found on a large number of the magazine base covers found on the rifles. The gew 88 would have been made long before that as they stoped making them in 1898.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:18 am 
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stan61 wrote:
The gew 88 would have been made long before that as they stoped making them in 1898.


I did not know that, thanks. So all Gew 88s are classified as antiques then? I'll have to pick up the Scarlata book sooner or later to go with my Serbian & Yugoslav Mausers book.


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Wake up and smell the Turkaline is an understatement! Here are a couple pics of the 1940 K Kale I picked up last week. I am in the process of getting the cosmoline, & grime out of the stock and thought you all would appreciate a pic of just how grimey it was! Any idea what wood this stock is made of?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:52 pm 
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I love pointy things. :mrgreen:

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That's going to be a pretty one! All of the Turk stocks I've seen have been either walnut or beech, yours looks like walnut.
Neat to find a bayo that still has it's hooked quillion, too.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:09 am 
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Gripen wrote:
stan61 wrote:
The gew 88 would have been made long before that as they stoped making them in 1898.


So all Gew 88s are classified as antiques then?

Well, usually! Sometimes depends on the sellers interpretaion of the rules. I think as far as BATF is concerned they are. Confusion sets in at times when some see the 1930's Turkish refurb date applied to the old receivers. Some FFL's will treat all firearms they sell as non-antiques! I had to fill out paperwork a few years ago on a M95 Chilean Mauser which was Ludwig Loewe marked, and clearly an antique. When I mentioned the antique status they just said "that was their policy"!


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bought my 1st Non Mosin rifle this century picked it up today at my FFL 1940 dated KKale still pretty greasy, nice bore fair walnut stock for less than 200 OTD needed something to shoot all that Turk ammo bought 700 rounds of it when it was still cheap


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I forgot I had two more to add to the thread:

1940 ASFA-Ankara M38 8x57IS. This rifle is built on an ex-Gew.98 receiver, and has the triggerguard/magazine and floorplate from an M1903 rifle. It's all mis-matched and doesn't shoot too well. Century import mark on barrel.

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1923 CZ-Brno Vz.98/22 8x57IS. This is one of the Czechoslovak Army rifles bought by the Turkish Republic in 1926. The bayonet lug, upper barrel band, triggerguard/magazine, cleaning rod and forward action bolt are all Imperial German-proofed. The bolt is CZ-proofed but un-numbered. This B-block rifle is more correct than my C-block 98/22. It has a Century import mark on the barrel.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:44 pm 
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Just cleaned mine in the electro bath, its a whole other rifle! Had to do some stock repairs so the stock was refinished with a mix of reddish walnut stain and true oil. Haven't shot it yet but it passed a field gauge check.


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I've had this one for a little over a year now, it was a wedding present from my Turkish co-worker and friend.

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It has one of the most "interesting" stocks I've seen on a Turk.

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