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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:37 am 
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Picked up this Commission rifle fully Turked in 1940. The seller says all serial numbers are arsenal stamped and matching. The serial number is at the upper end of the range for 1940 updated rifles on the Turkish Mauser site and I added it to the serial number survey. Been looking for a nice fully Turked example to complement my nearly orginal Turked Gew 88. This one looks pretty unmessed with. The seller says it has no import stamp and the bore is good, with strong rifling. His photos are not too good. No cracks in the stock. $314.95 shipped, but I have seen these go for quite a bit more in this condition. What do you think?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:12 am 
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Seems a little high - but then I'm a little cheap. I would think those still in imperial trim would be higher priced.

This one was $125 at a local yard sale - still full of cosmoline.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:07 pm 
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Mwt wrote:
Seems a little high - but then I'm a little cheap. I would think those still in imperial trim would be higher priced.

This one was $125 at a local yard sale - still full of cosmoline.


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Great deal! I live in Illinois so you just don't ever see firearms at yard sales and the nearest (LGS) local gun store that sells surplus is over 50 miles away and they are incompetent clowns, to boot, so I am pretty much restricted to on line auctions for adding to my collection. Gun shows and estate sales are sparse in my area, too. I've never seen a regular sporting goods store sell surplus firearms in Illinois. The only Cabellas in the state is a three hour drive from here. There is one local pawn shop that sells a few surplus rifles, but they are now selling on Gunbroker and their reserve prices have gone up accordingly. I recently had to go through major amounts of crap just to buy a couple of black powder revolvers. Luckily, money is not a problem for me, six figure salary, single, no kids but Still, I can't bring myself to buy one of the fully Turked Commission rifles that have been sitting on GB at $399 before shipping for the past few months. This is the cheapest one I was interested in that I have seen on GB. They are pushing closer to $400 shipped there. There is a good, not great, nearly original lightly Turked Commission rifle on GB that has a reserve over $365 (highest bid so far), that the seller has re-listed seven times because no one will meet his reserve. A slightly nicer than mine, but non-matching, fully Turked Commission rifle went for $265 on GB last month. I paid a lot less than that on GB for my really nice and very lightly modified 1890 Amberg Commission rifle, but probably only because the seller had only two really poor pictures and no one wanted to take a chance on it. Rant, rant, rant.... Retiring next year and will eventually move to a more gun friendly state.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:15 pm 
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Sounds like it is a reasonable deal in your area.

You won't have to load .320 bullets either as i have to since mine still has the original barrel.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:28 pm 
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Mwt wrote:
Sounds like it is a reasonable deal in your area.

You won't have to load .320 bullets either as i have to since mine still has the original barrel.


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I thought that the "S" mark on the receiver indicates that the rifle has been reworked to accept the .323 bullets? I've not fired my "un-turked" Turk Commission rifle yet...


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Guess it is an 1891, not 1890!


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:40 pm 
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Recently watched a video on the Commission 1888 rifles by a gunsmith, TheKoba49. He claims the S stamp does not guarantee a .323 bore, and recommends slugging the bore to make sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSy5OUaj7Tw


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:41 pm 
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The s means the chamber neck has been relieved if necessary for the .323 bullet. The barrels are likely original bore diameter - .318-.320. The German WW1 .323 bullet was designed to swage down safely in the Gew 88. Unless you have a supply of those on hand it is prudent to use .320 - 32 Winchester bullets. The Speer 170 gr version shoots quite well in mine as the old doe in the pic can testify.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:48 pm 
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Good to know. Thanks. This video is shortened to only address the "S" mark's meaning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTTrGD1e7wU


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:44 pm 
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I've also read the Rem-Chester lawyer loads feature a .320 bullet in deference to Gew88s - don't know this to be a fact but would make sense.


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Nice, I picked mine up, a 1890 Danzig Turkish 88/05, in 2012 for $212.00. Here's the original link to the posting.

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=122553

Took it out shooting on 01 Oct 2016, didn't do too bad for a 126 year old rifle, considering I shot it freehand/standing at 100 yards and eyes aren't what they use to be. Ignore the two fliers in the white those were my test shots.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 7:10 pm 
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ffuries wrote:
Nice, I picked mine up, a 1890 Danzig Turkish 88/05, in 2012 for $212.00. Here's the original link to the posting.

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=122553

Took it out shooting on 01 Oct 2016, didn't do too bad for a 126 year old rifle, considering I shot it freehand/standing at 100 yards and eyes aren't what they use to be. Ignore the two fliers in the white those were my test shots.


Nice. I know what you mean about eyes not being what they used to be. I am 62, now, and shooting is a bit less fun than it used to be because I can't see these military surplus rifle sights too well any more.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:53 pm 
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ffuries wrote:
Nice, I picked mine up, a 1890 Danzig Turkish 88/05, in 2012 for $212.00. Here's the original link to the posting.

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=122553

Took it out shooting on 01 Oct 2016, didn't do too bad for a 126 year old rifle, considering I shot it freehand/standing at 100 yards and eyes aren't what they use to be. Ignore the two fliers in the white those were my test shots.


Nice. I know what you mean about eyes not being what they used to be. I am 62, now, and shooting is a bit less fun than it used to be because I can't see these military surplus rifle sights too well any more.


Roger that, I have to either focus on the sights and not see the target, or focus on the target and not see the sights. I'll be 50 in Dec, but years of inspecting NVGs and age has taken a toll on my eyes. Sucks having had 20/10 in both eyes to where I am today. Heck 20/20 took some getting use to, and I'd be happy just to have 20/20 again.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:17 pm 
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Where do you find .320 bullets? I can't locate anything other than .321.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:26 pm 
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My bad - .321 is what I use - intended for 32 Winchester


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I just cast up some 155gn bullets for my kar88 they are 321 and I use an old Ideal 32-40 combo tool .
Just got to run em through my 320 sizer to lube em and I'm set . :thumb:

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