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 Post subject: 1893/1903 differences
PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:58 pm 
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SgtRage

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2/06/06 at 07:49 PM


Ok gang, how do I tell if the Turk I got is a 1893 or 1903 model?


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2/06/06 at 07:53 PM


1893 turk cocks on closing just like a swedish mauser or british enfield. 1903 turk cocks on opening just like a k98 mauser or yugo mauser. 1893 has only two lugs on the bolt. 1903 has the third safety lug just like a k98 mauser or yugo mauser.


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2/06/06 at 08:36 PM


which parts are the lugs?

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b226/ ... 000002.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b226/ ... 000001.jpg


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2/06/06 at 10:02 PM


Look on the underside of the bolt where the handle meets the bolt body. If there's a little square projecting from the bolt, that's a 98 action bolt. If there's a little indentation, it's a '93.


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2/07/06 at 01:23 AM


The '93 is an 1893 style Mauser and the -03 is a '98. As was mentioned the '93 cocks when you push the bolt closed, while the '98 cocks as you open the bolt. Here is a Turk -03 next to a '93 Mauser:

1. Note that the -03 Turk (left) is a large ring that is the front ring if the receiver is larger in diameter than the rest of the receiver, while the '93 (on the right) is a small ring, that is to say, the front ring of the receiver is the same diameter as the rest of the receiver.

2. The -03 Turks are unusual in that they heva a bullet nose cutout in the rear of the front ring.

3. The -03 Turks also have an unusual bolt stop, that curls up and forms part of the stripper clip slot, unlike most '98 Mausers that have a bolt stop just like the '93 model.

Here are the bolts removed:

Note that the '98 (the -03 Turk on the left) has three locking lugs, (numbered) while the rear locking lug on the '93 (on the right) is missing. That third locking lug only comes into play when the front two fail. Apparently that happened enough between '93 and '98 so ol Paul Mauser thought it was a good idea.

- Jeff


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2/07/06 at 01:28 AM


Wonderful pics -- it doesn't get any clearer.


davidschnopp

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2/07/06 at 06:36 AM


The locking lugs are the two rectangular studs that come out of the side of the bolt barrel. One has the extractor over it. If there is a third stud on the opposite end of the bolt you have an 03. If that area is bare you have a 93.

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2/07/06 at 12:31 PM


Also, if the front of the bolt has a flat surface that juts down, its 1893. The gas holes in the bolt are a dead giveaway. There is also the 1938, which is yet again a different bolt size. That one is best told just by seeing how long the bolt is.


SgtRage

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2/07/06 at 07:31 PM


Thanks again guys, looks like I've definitely got the 1903 model.

Might I suggest pinning this one due to the EXCELLENT reference material?


SgtRage

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2/17/06 at 10:25 PM


Thanks again to JeffS for the excellent reference material, and to Burner for pinning this!


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That was a great rundown on the differences and comparison of the two.... It ought to be a "Sticky". So concise and easy to understand!...I like it! :thumb:
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