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 Post subject: Israeli DOU45 7.62
PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:28 pm 
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Hello,

Here is my last acquisition, an Israeli máuser, czech made DOU45.

It is in good looking condition, but the bore has pitting in the last 25%.

I have measured the bore and in the first 75% it is .3075 and .300.....but in the last 25% it is .3085-.309 and .302.
At least all the lands have copper till the muzzle and the crown is not oval.

By now I am getting 6inch at 100m (with my handloads, using the Rem 150gr PSP and 39.8gr of Tubal3000 that gives 850 m/s) until it heats up and start to appear flyers in the target.

It had several pressure points near barrel bands, but now the bore is almost free from touching points.

I have to develop more loads for it with heavier bullets...I hope I can improve its accuracy at least to get 4 inch at 100m :pray:

I hope in 2 weeks I´ll have time to go to the range, so I´ll post target pics .


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 Post subject: Re: Israeli DOU45 7.62
PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:29 pm 
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Very nice rifle! most are real "beaters". How's it shoot?

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 Post subject: Re: Israeli DOU45 7.62
PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:40 pm 
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These definitely have a lot of history! I just purchased mine and received it this week. My bore is not as worn, though I have not slugged it yet to see the diameter. I was able to shoot 168gr Hornady HPBT with 42gr of H4895 powder. Groups were around tighter, around 4 inches or 10cm. at 100m with the higher load. With commercial 147gr Barnaul FMJ .308 the groups opened up.

Marc

here's mine: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=134149

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 Post subject: Re: Israeli DOU45 7.62
PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:23 pm 
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I have a similar rifle with virtually no rifling left. I'm re-barreling it with a Chilean 1912/61 .308 barrel as soon as I can make the wrenches. I have 3 mausers waiting for me to do this to. I hope they all turn out OK

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 Post subject: Re: Israeli DOU45 7.62
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ISC wrote:
I have a similar rifle with virtually no rifling left. I'm re-barreling it with a Chilean 1912/61 .308 barrel as soon as I can make the wrenches. I have 3 mausers waiting for me to do this to. I hope they all turn out OK


I was just thinking this same fact. I know we have Chileno modelo 1912's up here also with barrels in great condition.

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 Post subject: Re: Israeli DOU45 7.62
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Update.
This morning I went to a field to shoot the Izzy.

I had 3 rounds of Spanish surplus (145gr FMJBT), and then shot 7 Federal Premium 180gr Nosler (which is pretty hot), at 55meters.

The Federal ammo worked well (with 1 low flyer, but was my fault), and I think this bore is not completely worn and is still shootable....and maybe it will shoot better with handloads (180grainers at lower velocities).


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 Post subject: Re: Israeli DOU45 7.62
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Fine looking rifle. =D> Both my Israeli 7.62 Nato like the lighter bullets in the 140 to 150gr range. Fiocchi 150gr sp ,CBC M80 ( Magtech ) 147gr fmj, and 140 gr Silver Bear sp. are in the top five for both, The Fiocchi is kind of hot, but not too bad. The other two are pretty mild. Don't know what ammo is available to you but I've tested many brand name loads and may be able to give an opinion on the ones you can get. again , nice find. :thumb:


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 Post subject: Re: Israeli DOU45 7.62
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Your mauser looks like it's printing some decent groups. Have you considered EBC (electronic bore cleaning) you can make oone from an old flashlight?? The instructions can be found on this forum. EBC has done wonders for my mosins.


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 Post subject: Re: Israeli DOU45 7.62
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Hello,

Well, finally I recrowned it.....I could not stand the worn muzzle it had, so I recrowned it, expecting to get better groups.

This morning I went to the range, and shot several loads with different bullets.

So, here is the result, at 100m.

Now, I´m very satisfied with the rifle and with the recrowning job (now I get same groups at double distance)...she seems to have some life left... :dance:


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 Post subject: Re: Israeli DOU45 7.62
PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:16 pm 
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nice shooting!!!!! good job on the re-crown as well. i thought it was illegal to shoot "military" calibers there. nice rifle and again nice shooting! how did you recrown the rifle?

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 Post subject: Re: Israeli DOU45 7.62
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alex124485 wrote:
nice shooting!!!!! good job on the re-crown as well. i thought it was illegal to shoot "military" calibers there. nice rifle and again nice shooting! how did you recrown the rifle?


Here we can shoot military calibers, except:

.308 for semiautos (but legal in repeating rifles)
7.62x39 for semiautos (but legal in repeating rifles)
.223 is completely banned
5.45 russian is banned
50bmg is completely banned

And here is ilegal any caliber over .50cal (except for muzzleloaders).

The rest of military calibers are completely legal.

I sent the rifle to a local gunsmith that has a lathe.


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 Post subject: Re: Israeli DOU45 7.62
PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:42 pm 
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Nice recrown job :thumb: :thumb: Looking at the pic of your muzzle.. your barrel is fine. Just keep testing with different brands of ammo. You will find one that shoots outstanding in your rifle.


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 Post subject: Re: Israeli DOU45 7.62
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You have a nice rifle there. I also have a dou.45 Israeli. I've only shot it at 40 yards with Chinese surplus(?), but was impressed. I have a couple of other Israeli Mausers. History drips off these old rifles.

Love "them old army rifles!"


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