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 Post subject: Savage no4 mk1 1942
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:23 am 
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Gunbroker got me! I caved in. Just "won" a savage no4 mk1 that appears to be in real nice condition
Metal retains like new black, hopefully not repainted and nice stained wood.
I'll post pics when she gets home and see what everyone thinks as I'm no expert.
I've been wanting a nice US enfield to go with my '53 FTR that shows more wear

Now I have to stay away from gunbroker as I'm becoming "broker"


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 Post subject: Re: Savage no4 mk1 1942
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:10 am 
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Your description sounds close to my rifle. Savage N°4 Mk I*, marked U.S. Property. Made in 1943 and FTR'd in Fazakerley 1953, where it got new barrel and stock.
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 Post subject: Re: Savage no4 mk1 1942
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:43 pm 
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Ive never heard of these. Do the shot as good as they look?


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 Post subject: Re: Savage no4 mk1 1942
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Mine was fine, even with the infamous 2 groove barrel.

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 Post subject: Re: Savage no4 mk1 1942
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 7:05 am 
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Is it a mk1 or 1*? They switched production in '42 I think after the first 20,000 so a scarce enough beast if the former.

I snagged one a few months back. Nice rifle!


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 Post subject: Re: Savage no4 mk1 1942
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 12:43 am 
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Rifle still not here. I've had some shipping issues, FFL to receive wanted it shipped using FFLeZ check. Gentleman shipping rifle is not comfortable with the info provided through eZ check. I now have a member of my gun club taking care of receiving the rifle, anyhow the rifle is marked no4 mk1 1942
I see no * on receiver


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 Post subject: Re: Savage no4 mk1 1942
PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:03 pm 
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Of the 1.2 million +/- No4's manufactured by Savage, approx. 10% or 120,000 were MkI rifles made in 1941 and 1942. MkI* rifles were manufactured from 1942 - 1944.


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 Post subject: Re: Savage no4 mk1 1942
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So that would make the Mk1 more desirable? I mean there were more made with the *
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 Post subject: Re: Savage no4 mk1 1942
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To me the No4 Mk1* was a downgrade, a war expediency.
Because of that & the fact that way more No4 Mk1* s were made yes it would.

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 Post subject: Re: Savage no4 mk1 1942
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The Mk1 has the bolt release button at the rear of the ejection port, the Mk1* has the cut out in the rail towards the front of the port to allow turning the bolt head extractor lug up to remove the bolt.
The later method can cause problems when the action becomes worn or loose. The rail can become chipped at the edges of the cut out allowing the bolt head to jump the track.

The Mk1 is the better action but according to some the Mk1* was less likely to fail proof if re-barreled to 7.62. Apparently if the milled channel for the bolt release was not radiused at the corners a crack might form and spread under shock of firing.
So one type is somewhat stronger while the other is more prone to wear.
With an action in excellent condition the cut out in the track should not pose a problem.

Personally I prefer the Mk1, I've had problems with my Mk1* before replacing the badly worn non matching bolt body and loose fitting bolthead with NOS replacement parts many years ago when such parts were still dirt cheap.


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