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#1 Post by KneverKnew » Sat Nov 16, 2019 2:22 pm

I’ve had a K31’s for over 20 years and finally got a 1911 at auction that I think is in decent shape. I’ll post range results once I make it there. The receiver has the same serial number as the barrel but there is a 31 below the receiver serial. Is that date made? All numbers seem to match and no import Mark. Bore is beautiful.

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#2 Post by vandle » Sat Nov 16, 2019 6:49 pm

Hi KneverKnew

Congrates on your aquisition

The 31 will be the year that the rifle was retired from active service.
all of mine have these various dates on the receiver.
Check to see if you have the letter P stamped next to it.
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#3 Post by KneverKnew » Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:27 pm

Thank you. I see no P (personal?)
Is there a serial number list to provide a manufacture date? Serial is 375980.

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#4 Post by KneverKnew » Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:40 pm

I need to figure out a way to post pictures. Don’t want to use photobucket.

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#5 Post by vandle » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:56 am

1915

Try this site.
a lot of good info on Swiss firearms
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#6 Post by KneverKnew » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:42 am

Is this mark on the rear receiver top on purpose or is this just a damage mark? Can any one give me a rough estimate what the value would be for this rifle. I’d like to think I didn’t get robbed.
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Looks like someone added height to the front sight.
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#7 Post by vandle » Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:36 pm

KneverKnew wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:42 am
Is this mark on the rear receiver top on purpose or is this just a damage mark? Can any one give me a rough estimate what the value would be for this rifle. I’d like to think I didn’t get robbed.{/quote]

That is a very poorly stamped "P" When soldiers "retired" from active service they were given the option to take their firearm with them. The firearm was stamped with a P for "private". The year is usually stamped on the receiver as well.
I have not seen any dates on K31 though.
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#8 Post by KneverKnew » Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:45 pm

Well that’s a relief. So it’s a personal weapon then. At least it’s not just some random gouge in the metal. LOL.
As I mentioned in the OP The receiver does have a 31 stamped into the receiver side just below the serial. So does being a personal give the rifle any more value? I still haven’t checked for a troop tag yet. I bought this thinking is sell one of my two K31’s to recoup the funds. I really like the M1911 but two of my gun nut friends tell me to keep the K31 and sell the 1911. Not sure what I’m going to do at this point. Shoot it will be at the top of the list for sure

If I did try and sell this one, what would it be worth on the market? Any one have an opinion as to which rifle to keep? Besides this 1911 I have two K31’s. A real nice walnut and a beech stocked one in rougher shape. both still shoot lights out. Was thinking to sell the rougher beech rifle.

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#9 Post by vandle » Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:54 pm

My personal view is keep the G11, they are the most accurate of all the rifles.
Action is smoother and suit long distance shooting.
I shoot both at 500mtrs and the 11 beats it hands down
I even prefer shooting my K11 over my K31 anytime.
K31 is good but the G11 is better although a little longer and muzzle heavy.
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#10 Post by KneverKnew » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:33 am

That’s what I have read, that the 1911 is typically a little more accurate than the K31. And just to clear up my confusion, I thought the short barrel carbine version of the 1911was called the K11. Or are both carbine and long rifles referred to in general as K11? Really just splitting hairs here. Just curious.

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#11 Post by KneverKnew » Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:02 am

ive found that the chamber dimensions of the K31’s ar slightly larger than those of the 1911. I got a hornady Swiss K32 die set specifically for my K31’s. I also have two sets of RCBS Schmidt-Rubin 7.5x55 dies a friend gave me. Yesterday I test chambered a round of GP11 and one of my personal loads that used a GP11 case resized in the Hornady K31 dies. As expected, the GP11 round chambered with no problems, but the K31 sized GP11 case would not close. Looks like I’m going to have to segregate brass.

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#12 Post by vandle » Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:05 pm

K11 is the general designation for the carbine
G1911 for the long rifle
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#13 Post by KneverKnew » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:29 pm

Oh joy. I just won a Vetterli on auction.

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#14 Post by vandle » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:57 pm

Love your work
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#15 Post by Rapidrob » Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:25 pm

I've been shooting my G1911 rifle for a couple of decades now in long range competition. And I will be doing it again this weekend at our closer range (385 meters) for our annual "Turkey Shoot".
Of the rifles I have in my collection the G1911 is in the top two for accuracy at any range with either original GP11 ammo or my reloads using Reloader 15/17 and 175 grain M118 or Sierra Match king bullets.
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