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 Post subject: My New (to me) Gew 98
PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:28 pm 
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Hello everyone. I recently acquired a Gewehr 98, and would like to know more about it. The receiver is a Spandau made in 1900, and that's a bout all I know for sure haha. My understanding is that the receiver and bolt are supposed to be in the white, but they are blued. Was this done my the military after a certain point? I''m assuming the gun is a re-work. I also know the stock is late, because it has the finger grooves and the take down disks. The rear sight is also of the 400M variety. The purchase came with a Simson bayonet dated 1915. None of the numbers match, so I know it's probably not super desirable, but I really wanted a WWI German rifle. I traded about $800 worth of stuff for it, so I hope I did ok. Thanks for your input, and if you want to see any specific pictures please ask.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:29 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:30 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:05 pm 
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Very Nice :thumb:


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:11 pm 
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Nice looking rifle. Love those rear sights... I like the Bayonet, The story of the Simpson Suhl company is one of those of much bitterness. Nice find


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:37 pm 
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A mix master but it should shoot find. Looks nice to me. I like the patina to the metal on that rifle. Are you missing a cleaning rod? $800 seems steep to me :think: :think: The value of any military surplus Gewehr 98 depends on its condition, if the stock was refinished, with cartouches on original wood, import marked or not, matching numbers, and how original is its appearance. The closer to the almost mint, like the condition was when it left the factory, $$$$$ the more valuable it is. While matching parts, everything has a number, is important; there are many other factors that add up to make a rifle really nice. Turked models are so so , refinished & sanded stock is another problem, bore condition and headspace is also a factor. There are various military rebuilds/reworks, whether it has been upgraded after 1919, or even during WWII, all are factors that influence value a great deal. Factors I like is the intact patina, all matching except the bolt, a fair to good bore , an original sling and cleaning rod, and possible the battle damage. So each owner values certain factors. It is very difficult to find intact, matching, original wood GEW 98s. Also, and this is a huge factor, how often do you find a Gewehr 98 in your area?

This is one I got last year or so:
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=142375&hilit=+98+mauser

This would have been a good find but its a Turked Gewehr 98:
viewtopic.php?f=34&t=144260&hilit=+mauser+at+shop

My mixmaster dog with bayonet Gew 98 viewtopic.php?f=21&t=108158&hilit=+gew98

CHECK out the Gun Collector Vol. 31, no.6, December 2009 and see John Wall's article Collecting First World War Mauser Trophy Rifles, info on pp 27-29 and 35-36. This issue is on plugged Gew 98 trophy rifles see
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=142174&hilit=+gun+collector+magazine


Great rifles:
https://gewehr98.wordpress.com

http://www.warhistoryonline.com/living- ... orld-war-i

This is a good book , very nice info & photos, Rifle & Carbine 98, M98 Firearms of the German Army from 1898 to 1918 by Dr. Dieter Storz
https://www.amazon.com/Rifle-Carbine-98 ... 390252605X

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:11 pm 
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The very early date is a big plus , just are not very many of those left . The receiver does not look "blued" to me , just really turned brown . To me the bolt is the worst part , it is from a different time period and does stand out . With my 400 German 98's headspace has never been a problem , the parts do interchange .


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:15 pm 
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Do you have any idea what time period the bolt is from? I figured at some point they re-arsenaled the gun, probably for WWI.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:56 pm 
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I love that serial number on the receiver-45-70, would be easy to remember your rifle's number!


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:37 pm 
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Even though its a mix master, its in very good condition. Love the patina on the action.
I would imagine it would be very hard to find an all matching of these old girls, especially after they are rearsenaled.

I love the ramped rear sights on these 98s, :thumb:

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:22 pm 
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Vandle - I totally agree. Even though she's mixed, I still think it has a lot of history. And who knows....the mixing of parts could have been done as a re-arsenal. All of the wear seems to be consistent. I really can't complain for a gun that is 117 years old and has lived through two world wars...


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