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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:04 am 
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I've recently started to get back into mil-surplus rifles after several year hiatus. Mainly because I've found several interesting rifles that speak to my inner history geek and I want them to be appreciated and respected . Plus its always baller to get out an older rifle at the range and have everyone looking at you funny when you are pinging the gong with something besides an AR. I digress....

While perusing Armslist I noticed an ad for some tinkerer/gunsmith rifles. Looked through the gentleman's ad noticed he had a Gew88. The description of said ad is as follows "Gew 88 8x57, not Turkish it is German with Amberg armory stamp, bolt not complete but rest of gun is $150."

Been talking to the guy via email, and got a few pictures if the rifle. Had him send me a picture of the receiver and bolt.

I really like the rifle (mainly so I can shoot a 100+ year gun), but will I spend more money on trying to get the parts needed than its worth?

Also, I don't reload and have a slew of PPU I'm starting to accumulate, is that safe for the rifles?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:23 am 
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Bolt heads for these are hard to find and expensive.

I can't tell from the photos whether the rear sight is present.

There was a recent thread on the forum advising to shoot .321 bullets in these rather than the .323 8mm Mauser military rounds, which would necessitate reloading.

If you can find a complete rifle they are usually very accurate and have a great trigger pull for a milsurp,


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:25 am 
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Do ya think another will pop up in a bit?
Would you experience Buyer remorse?
Are we Gettin any Younger??


LOL

I just noticed the Forum still has my age from when I first joined the Forum...!!! LOL


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:37 am 
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They frequently appear on Gunbroker and other sales sites. Google "Gew88 for sale" and see what pops up. Even if they are sold already you can get an idea of how prices are going. I paid $250 for mine, I think.

Yes, I too stayed the same age on the forum for several years. Tempus fugit.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:10 am 
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nrobertb wrote:
Bolt heads for these are hard to find and expensive.
Yes...

If you are just looking to shoot a 100year old rifle, get yourself a Swede m96 (6.55), an Argentine 1891 (7.65), Chilean 1895 (7mm), or if you really want to attract a crowd at the range, a 1908 Brazilian (7mm) or 1909 Argentine (7.65)

You can still find parts for these, and Prvi makes good ammo... It usually cost around $15 per box of 20 rounds, boxer primed and brass re-loadable...

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:00 pm 
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tojak wrote:
nrobertb wrote:
Bolt heads for these are hard to find and expensive.
Yes...

If you are just looking to shoot a 100year old rifle, get yourself a Swede m96 (6.55), an Argentine 1891 (7.65), Chilean 1895 (7mm), or if you really want to attract a crowd at the range, a 1908 Brazilian (7mm) or 1909 Argentine (7.65)

You can still find parts for these, and Prvi makes good ammo... It usually cost around $15 per box of 20 rounds, boxer primed and brass re-loadable...

Yes...But, if someone has an 1895 Chilean, even with no Bolt, for a Buck and a Half, I'm In...Been looking for quite awhile...


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:57 am 
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A typical South American import , common , nothing special . A lot came in with no bolt heads , causing the shortage and high price for bolt heads . If it has a Czech .316 replacement barrel on it trying to shoot .321 bullets will not help . If you want a Gew88 for a shooter you are better off looking for a nice Turk 88-05 rifle [ one with a .323 Turk replacement barrel is best ] as none will have a barrel with less than a .321 groove . Then you can shoot US made 8x57mm ammo or the Romanian .321 surplus ammo , both are not too hard to find or pricey .


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It does appear to be a non 05 modified rifle, ie doesn't have the stripper clip guides added or the cutouts for the thumb/bullet tip for stripping rounds. You'll have to slug the bore to see what it measures. You'll need to shoot it with clips or single shot, as you can't just use an 8mm stripper clip like the 05 modified rifles. You may need to buy a donor rifle to get a bolthead, I'd say if you can find a cheap donor rifle with a bolthead for $100 or $150 it might be worth it in the end to have a complete unmodified rifle, but if you just want a shooter, an 05 modified rifle, whether used by turkey or not can be found typically for less than that.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:53 pm 
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Thanks for all the replies, I'm still seriously considering getting it to fill the void in my life. Already located a complete bolt assemble for $100, rifle does have the rear sight to answer previous question .

The seller and I are playing tag for the moment, if deal doesn't happen like I hope already bidding on a Turk Kale Mauser to fill the void

Think I'm going to stick to 8mm and 303 British rifles this time around...until I find a good deal on something cool


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:29 pm 
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Well I got it, just been slammed at work and with other household duties to report same. Planning on stripping it down and taking alot of pictures to post on Monday when I have time


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Great cannot wait to see photos of it.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:01 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:10 pm 
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More pictures, I'll try to take some of the action tomorrow if I get a chance. Overall in good shape in my opinion for being over a hundred years old

Found a complete bolt online and purchased it, only complaint is that that doesn't have the Imperial Army markings on it like the one that was in it when I bought it. Might see which one Headspace's better, which reminds me I need to get some gauges.

Also found some of the original clips for the Gew 88 on eBay in the UK and got them ordered. Should be here before the new year.

Still need to do a complete strip and clean, just a basic BLO scrub on the wood, and clean off surface rust. Plan is to eventually slug the barrel, but I'm going to need help to do that cause I've never done it before


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 12:44 pm 
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The majority of Gew 88 rifles in this country are Turk used. Most of them came in with Czech replacement bolts. One story is the British took the bolts at the end of WW1 so the Turks bought replacements from the Czechs.

Is there a circle z on your replacement bolt?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:14 pm 
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None of the Gew-88 rifles in this country came from Turkey , The Turks had no Gew-88's , only Gew-88/05's . The rifle in the photo is a Gew-88 and came from South America . The Turks also got a lot of rifles from the Czechs for years after the War . Those rifles will have cz marked bolts as they were put together from parts . The bolts were rebuilt and proofed .


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