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 Post subject: Odd Mauser........
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 11:58 pm 
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I can not get photos of it right now, as no one is here to get them. But I have this odd Mauser I picked up years ago that I was thinking of. It has no crest or anything on it, no importers marks. On the right hand side of the receiver there is a small circle with a z in it, this mark is also on the straight bolt, along with a serial number on the bolt. The stock is cut for a turned down bolt, so at one point in its life it had the bolt replaced. On the left side of the receiver there is a 4 digit serial number and back behind it, almost hidden, is 8MM..

Anyone have any idea? German Cheq sneak gun? Spanish Civil War sneak gun?? Polish? I really have no clue and I know a description does no good without photos.....


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 Post subject: Re: Odd Mauser........
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A shot in the dark..... #-o
There are a number of VZ 24 rifles with a notch for a bent bolt, but have missmatched straight bolts? Receiver is scrubbed. The circle with a Z is Czech.( Correction it is on Czech bayonets and Polish rifles, On rifles it is Polish as indicated in lower post by MWT ) How long is the rifle? If it's a short one???? :arrow: Does it look like this and is 8mm mauser ?
http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarm ... rms_id=691
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=115255
http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=f3mausvz24

Another real long rifle similar might be a Czech made 98/22
http://www.cobracountry.com/guns/mauser-9822.html
https://www.libertytreecollectors.com/p ... roduct=620
http://www.turkmauser.com/rifles/JoeS/98_22(1).aspx
other wise we need some photos :shifty: :shifty: :shifty:

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 Post subject: Re: Odd Mauser........
PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:15 pm 
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Sounds like you are describing a Polish WZ29. Most are Spanish Civil War rifles. Poles scrubbed the crests prior to sending to Spain. Most have straight bolt handle but all stocks are inlet for a bent handle. Unlike a vz24 there will be a side sling "bar" on the left rear of the stock instead of a side sling swivel at the left wrist.

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 Post subject: Re: Odd Mauser........
PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:24 pm 
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The stock on the bottom is pretty much an exact match. Let me see if I can get my lazy a** 22 year old, that can`t figure out how to move out of the house yet, to get a few shots of the receiver.


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 Post subject: Re: Odd Mauser........
PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:01 pm 
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OK, I got him off his butt and video game long enough. There are no importers marks on it, maybe I got lucky with a bring back or a very early import. I might just consider keeping this one! I can`t do any shooting with it, thanks to being bed ridden and it just kills me when I have to sell one of my Mausers to pay these dang hospital and doctor bills........ Oh, it is 43 1/2 " as well. Heck, if it is a Polish one, I will hang on to it!!!!!


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2 more photos........ I assume they are not worth a fortune?????


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Polish Mauser sent to Spain for the civil war.

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 Post subject: Re: Odd Mauser........
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I paid $265 shipped two years ago for mine, but I am a bargain hunter. I would guess market value on these is $325 or so. A polish crest would more than double the value. The 8mm stamp is the early Interarms import stamp- came in to the country in the 1960s most likely.

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 Post subject: Re: Odd Mauser........
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:o MWT nailed it w/o pics a mind reader. :thumb: =D> =D> :whistle: :whistle:

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 Post subject: Re: Odd Mauser........
PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:34 pm 
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But...Being more than curious about Bolt Markings...I would love to see Close-ups of Both of the Bolts on the Rifles Shown...There is wealth in Knowledge...


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Here are the only markings on mine - the small circle z on the bolt knob is Polish not Czech.
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 Post subject: Re: Odd Mauser........
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:oops: But on a blade it's a Czech mark, It's hell getting old. VZ bayonets were typically marked with a Z in a CIRCLE marking, one circle with a Z is for Zbrojovka Brno plant 1 in Protektorat Boehmen und Maehren, two circles and Z is for plant II of Zbrojovka Brno which was was at northwest Slovakia - Povazska Bystrica. I think these are still in the Czech Republic, but maybe its Poland now :think: Too many crazy markings to remember, heck I forget where some of my rifles are stashed. A nice rifle in any event. It almost looks like a british broad arrow on that bolt, talk about crazy markings-- that bolt is nuts.
Now to find an marked F B Radom example: some interesting info on this link about these Wz 29 rifles :
http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread. ... arch/page2

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 Post subject: Re: Odd Mauser........
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So...Yer tellin me if it's on all the other parts receiver included, it is Czech...but, if on the bolt knob, it is Polish???


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:21 pm 
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Both countries used the same symbol - typically the Polish circle z is smaller, but that is not a hard and fast rule either, as far as I know. Has nothing to do if whether it is on a bayonet or a rifle.


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Both Polish and Czrch marked the serial on the bolt handle like that?
Interesting that the stylized "V" and the "M" occur on many Mausers..
That "M" appears on the Bottom of alot of Receivers as well...
Obviously I am Obsessed that there is so little Pictorial Data on various Bolt Markings.
One day I hope to get this straight at least in my own mind...Before I loose the Damn Thing!!!


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