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Please help me identify

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:20 pm
by Sjemo45
Hi
Apologies if this is the wrong place for this im new.

Over the weekend i purchased a m95. I hade heard about them but never new much. This was the first time i had ever seen one (ny isnt the best place to be ). I snaged it up because well its cool. And cheap. Un known to me at the time it turned out to be (from what i can tell) a bit of an odd ball. Its lacking in stamps and thatbhas givin me a hell of a time finding out anything about it. Its a full lemgth rifle that was never converted to 8x56r. Its still chamberd in 8x50r which from what i found is a bit rare but like i said i know nothing. I turned to a collector friend of mine who pointed me in this direction. Any help in finding info would be awsome. Thank you!

Re: Please help me identify

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:22 pm
by Sjemo45
Sorry my camera isnt the best.
Here are a few more pics

Re: Please help me identify

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:42 pm
by garra
This site may have some information that will help.

http://randyrick.us/AustrianFirearms/collect.htm

Re: Please help me identify

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:57 pm
by 72 usmc
see M95 mannlicher No photo of Crest? Budapest or Steyr long rifle in original 8x50 R . The K stamp on the bolt indicates a Steyr inspection mark so your rifle should have a "Steyr M95" on the receiver top. You need an enblock mannlicher clip to load and fire the rifle. stock number matches the barrel and receiver but does the bolt number match? Original 8x50R ammo is hard to find --its reloading time. And the bolt is a dog to take down, clean and grease the intertnals http://www.surplusfirearm.com/2012/04/1 ... eassembly/
http://www.hungariae.com/Mann95.htm

http://www.carbinesforcollectors.com/m95page.html

see forum sticky links here http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewto ... f=20&t=225

Steyr M95 carbine in 8x50r http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewto ... x50R#p4982

possible date info http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread. ... annlichers

reloading making 8x50R http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewto ... f=65&t=197


check out this book

or this book

Re: Please help me identify

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:23 pm
by Sjemo45
Thanks! There is a steyr crest on top i just never uploaded a photo. As for the bolt i could not fined any markings other than the k and an 8 on the side of one of the locking lugs.

Re: Please help me identify

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:51 am
by professrh
A full-length Steyr M95 in the original chambering. Nice find! If you get a chance to take it out for a spin, let us know how it shoots.

Re: Please help me identify

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:03 am
by Sjemo45
If i can come across any ammo ill take it out lol. The boar is shot but therebus still some rifleing.

Re: Please help me identify

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:26 pm
by Smokey
If you reload, ammo might be more of a possibility. You can probably form cases from 7.62x54R brass. Cast bullets such as the "Frankenstein" slug can shoot pretty well, perhaps even in a worn barrel.

Re: Please help me identify

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:29 pm
by Sjemo45
That is what i have heard. I have no experience with reloading though. I guess now is as good a time as any to learn lol.

Re: Please help me identify

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:20 am
by vandle
professrh wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:51 am
A full-length Steyr M95 in the original chambering. Nice find! If you get a chance to take it out for a spin, let us know how it shoots.
x2

Re: Please help me identify

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:06 pm
by Sjemo45
Anybody have any idea what this thing might be worth?

Re: Please help me identify

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:20 am
by 72 usmc
Petersons MILITARY FIREARMS price guide 8th edition has the harder to find long rifles priced at page 31 (Fair 175, Good 350, Very Good 450, Like new Excellent 550) This is the price for a matching rifle. No import mark. Long rifles are harder to find especially with the original sling. But most shooters want the 8x56R. Most long rifles I see in what I would say original condition with a good bore are are around $300- 350. Mine I got at 125 and 175 and they had slings. One has an import mark. The last bring back M95 carbine in very good original condition with no import mark and an original sling in 8x50R I got at $200 last year. Like french rifles those M95s do not fly off the tables. I think Peterson is nuts and would cut his prices in half for the WI gun show market. BUT, and this is a big but, this is a crazy time for guys that want original condition WW I rifles esp. GEW 98 and Enfields- so a collector, not a shooter, may really want it if it is not import marked, matching and was not refinished and pay a crazy price.
Now the import marked 8x56R long rifles are valued at less F 150, G 200, VG 275 like new exc. 350. Run of the mill, rebuilt import marked M95 carbines are at 125 -175. They can not even give those away.

Re: Please help me identify

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:14 pm
by Sjemo45
Thanks!
And thank you to everyone who helped im kind of a newb to collecting and i appreciate the help!

Re: Please help me identify

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:57 pm
by 72 usmc
original slings-- more pics in the above referenced book. slings can cost as much as a fair condition rifle
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I also think that butt plate is unit marked Z 5 ???
see markings m95
http://www.hungariae.com/Markings.htm

This 8x56R carbine also has a unit marked butt plate:
https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=47689
Overview of M95
http://www.cruffler.com/Features/SEP-01 ... ber01.html

https://gunsmagazine.com/web-blast-the- ... ight-pull/

Re: Please help me identify

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:31 pm
by 72 usmc
This should still be out at some mag racks or from the publisher Wolfe, Rifle Sporting Firearms Journal Special Edition 2017, GUNS OF WORLD WAR I. See pages 64-70. Mannlicher Model 1895 by Terry Wieland. to get an issue see
https://www.wolfeoutdoorsports.com/2017 ... l-edition/