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Remmington Mosin questions

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Remmington Mosin questions

#1 Post by Rapidrob » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:08 am

At our gun show this past weekend a fiend of mine picked up a Remington made Mosin Nagant rifle. I know the history of the WW1 contract and use by our troops at the end of the war, but have a question about markings.
On the underside of the wrist of the stock there are several marks that appear to be US Army acceptance marks?
There is the typical early eagle head stamp
A flaming bomb
and several other English letter and number marks. The serial number if I remember right was in the low 50 thousands? I did not have my phone to take a photo of the markings.
The rifle is as new as the day it was made. I'd like to find more info for him on these markings?
A link to a good photo sight would help.
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Re: Remmington Mosin questions

#2 Post by Miller Tyme » Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:22 pm

To save Remington and NEW from financial ruin with the Russian defaulting on the M91 contract the US government bought the stock pile of completed but not yet shipped rifles. These where issued to military training centers and National Guard units as 03's where in short supply and all available where requestioned to the front.

Some of those rifles latter made it to Spain (via Mexico) to be used by Republican forces. ( along with others supplied by Russia).

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#3 Post by Rapidrob » Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:54 pm

Yes, I know the history,just not the mentioned markings. The owner is pumped as he may have bought a valuable rifle from some research he has done.
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#4 Post by Miller Tyme » Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:42 pm

Rapidrob wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:54 pm
Yes, I know the history,just not the mentioned markings. The owner is pumped as he may have bought a valuable rifle from some research he has done.

The markings are just US Military acceptance markings that the rifles passed muster. If the rifle is all original and Matching it is between $1300-$1600.00, if not it is a $250- $450 rifle.

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#5 Post by Miller Tyme » Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:47 pm

A good book on these rifles is available, this is a must for a serious Mosin Collector.
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#6 Post by Miller Tyme » Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:01 pm

I will post up a post on what became of some of these rifles after the US government surplused them in the 20's, and another of what became of the incomplete rifles, and the name Bannerman is involved with both.

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#7 Post by Rapidrob » Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:03 am

All the parts match. The rifle is as new. Perhaps a 1920's 3 buck surplus sales. He paid 450 for it.
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#8 Post by steamer » Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:11 am

In the condition you describe, it still sounds like he got a pretty good deal.

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#9 Post by 72 usmc » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:55 pm

Miller time How about a Link to get that book???
date, publisher??? How old or new is this and how many page? PLEASE :arrow: :arrow: Can you do a review of the book and its cost in the book section. Maybe show the contents page? I think the Author is dead. Is it out of print? Is this the same author of the book , "Colt .45 service pistols" ????????
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Re: Remmington Mosin questions

#10 Post by Miller Tyme » Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:01 pm

72 usmc wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:55 pm
Miller time How about a Link to get that book???
date, publisher??? How old or new is this and how many page? PLEASE :arrow: :arrow: Can you do a review of the book and its cost in the book section. Maybe show the contents page? I think the Author is dead. Is it out of print? Is this the same author of the book , "Colt .45 service pistols" ????????
The book has been out for about 4 years and was sold by Mr Clawson, and latter his estate. This past weekend at the OGCA show there where about a dozen copies on a table for sale along with about a 1/2 dozen of his rifles.

Here are a couple of links that might get you a copy

1st link the book is item # 13

https://www.tapatalk.com/topic/34916-gu ... n-for-sale


2nd link is from a posting on Gunboards where most of them where sold through.

http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread. ... ht=clawson


Good Luck as these books where printed in very limited numbers.

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Re: Remmington Mosin questions

#11 Post by 72 usmc » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:29 pm

Thank you I will try and see if I can obtain a copy.
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Re: Remmington Mosin questions

#12 Post by retread12345678 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:59 pm

It. sounds like a super good price I sold one about 10 years ago. for that price Not bragging, just comparing. Now he needs a Remington marked bayonet

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