Jovino lithgow DP & $495

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Jovino lithgow DP & $495

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This is crazy: a Jovino Frankenstein parts gun with a DP mark at the serial number, and a heavily sanded and refinished stock at a hefty $495. :scared-eek: I wonder if it has recoil plates? Bolt may be P9123 and the receiver 3524. Was a DP bolt switched out? What is the surplus rifle market coming too. Wall hangers are now 500? :roll: Sure do shine :lol: :lol: Maybe it's one of the complete rifles he imported due to the F serial number, hence the fat price.... Some nut may want to fire this---
DP marked near the serial number** down graded to a training item at some point. We offer this as a collectable/non shooter just in case.
At least it is listed outright as bad news as a shooter.

What is next? A headline like: "Rare Lithgow completely restored utilizing original parts by the acclaimed master gunsmith JOHN JOVINO, a specialist in restoring and rebuilding Enfields." :doh: :doh:

Next thing I'll be hearing is DP Is the " Dependable Performance" guarantee mark of excellence :lol: :confusion-helpsos:
If you need a laugh check it out: To their credit Liberty lists it as a non shooter. They are always honest.
https://www.libertytreecollectors.com/p ... dcategory=
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Info about caution on Jovino:
http://www.angelfire.com/nh/milarm/fakes.html
No. 1 Mk III* (Lithgow - 'New') Often advertised as “collector grade” or “mint - unfired” or “unissued” and selling for $200 and up. Watch out for these! Quite a few “new Lithgow” rifles have been built just within the last few years from spare parts bought from the Australian government. The parts are new, and the rifles were never issued--but they aren’t Lithgow factory rifles by any stretch of the imagination! They’re recently-built parts guns. It is possible (though not likely) that some Lithgow-manufactured rifles with late-1945 (or later) dates were kept in storage and subsequently surplused out in unfired or unissued condition. Such rifles would have 5-digit serial numbers with either an “E” or an “F” serial number prefix, and the serial number would be stamped on the rear of the bolt handle and on the bottom of the fore-end, as well as on the receiver ring. Neither the nose cap nor the bottom of the backsight leaf will carry a different serial number on these rifles. Also, legitimate factory rifles will have brass or copper recoil plates installed on the fore-ends where the sear boss bears against the wood. If you find a “new” Lithgow with a 1943 or 1944 date, be highly suspicious. This was the height of the war, and virtually all rifles manufactured were issued. If you find the receiver marked with a “JJ CO NY NY” import stamp, assume it’s a parts gun unless you have clear evidence to the contrary. (Many “new Lithgow” parts guns appear to have been assembled on receivers imported by John Jovino & Co.) If you find a 4-digit serial number with no prefix letter and an “A” suffix, this is clear evidence that it is not a Lithgow factory rifle. If you find different serial numbers on different parts, this is clear evidence that it is a parts gun. And if the recoil lugs are missing, it is not only a parts gun--it is dangerous to shoot. There’s a good chance that the fore-end will shatter with as few as 20 or 30 round fired.
http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewto ... vino#p9326
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A lesson. For the new to surplus firearms. http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewto ... f=8&t=2911
First, a refinished stock - I stop there. At that price its a definite no go.
Second, a DP, I stop there. My eyes are worth more than $500 If you live on the edge and avoid caution. What to shoot it :naughty: :naughty: :doh: :snooty:
Third, a mismatched bolt? Does it headspace? Was a matching DP bolt switched out?
Fourth, if a complete imported Jovino Enfield and a DP, what is the reason for the DP? The rifle warrants a close inspection. Check headspace, check for enlarged chamber, check for a bulged barrel, check for a slightly bent barrel, checked for a rusty or pitted chamber, check for a worn muzzle, bad crown, or poor bore.
Fifth, The DP and refinished stock means poor return value if one is stupid enough to pay such a high price.
Six if that is a Jovino import mark as I suspect, Check to see if it is a parts dog. Do parts match? The bolt certainly does not.
My :twocents-02cents: , A $100 wall hanger for someones man's room
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So who is going to buy it at $495 +
To old to fight and to old to run, a Jar head will just shoot and be done with you.

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72 usmc wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 9:28 am


Next thing I'll be hearing is DP Is the " Dependable Performance" guarantee mark of excellence


The ones to watch out for are the South African rifles issued to the Durban Police.
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Way back in the 90's, Shotgun News was advertising Lee No.1 Mark III* for $19.95 with a select grade for $10 more. I went for the select and wound up with a 1920 Lithgow, almost all matching with a beautiful bore. At the time I knew nothing about milsurps and stupidly replaced the coachwood with walnut. Yes, it was a John Jovino bur thankfully not one cobbled together. Still shoots beautifully.
My, how prices have changed.

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Re: Jovino lithgow DP & $495

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Another Lithgow, Jovino rifle at Libertytreecollectors $675 IT SOLD IN 2 DAYS :o
Serial #D20381 This offering is for the pictured Enfield No1 Rifle. In good looking condition and maker marked from the Australian Lithgow Arsenals in 1942.

Matching serial numbers receiver, bolt forend and nose cap. FTR MA/52 marked when rebuilt. Metal finish is parkerized with thinning wear to the receiver and muzzle area. Bolt action repeater with a 10 round magazine appear mechanically fine.

Sound hard wood stock set, matched in color tone, minor dings and Australan markings on the right side.

Chambered in 303 British the bore has very good rifling. Import marked.
This one appears to be a complete rifle not one of the parts rifles- well maybe? No stock markings- looks to have been sanded & refinished, no cartouches , no mention of recoil plates. It has a D serial number for 41-42 which is on the strap 1942 date and the D arrow D marking, as well as a FTR, Factory Through Repair marking MA /52 date no mention if it was rebarreled. Odd all the stock markings are removed. Matching bolt and receiver. Is it a parts rifle, I think not. I wish they would show the recoil plates.
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Re: Jovino lithgow DP & $495

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$675 Jovino
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Re: Jovino lithgow DP & $495

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more $675 Jovino
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