Enfield No 4mk1 Sniper rifles

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In my collection I have these three Enfield No 4mk1 sniper rifles
Photos of rifles and wrist areas from the top down
One rifle has an original # 32 mk1 mount and scope with brass fixtures
one rifle has a repo # 32 mount and scope
One rifle is without mount and scope
I recently purchase a repo mount and scope
Having installed the repo i was not pleased.
This repo did not have brass fixtures
Is this repo a copy of say a newer or different model of the # 32 mk1 original scope??
I hesitate to order an other reop for the last rofle.
These rifles have interesting wrist and receiver marking NOTE
M 47 C
England
M 33902
TR
T on receiver left side
G crown R
Enfield
1931
No 4mk1
A 2179
No 4 nk1 on receiver left side
1309253
S
1942
Small flaming bomb
no 4nk1 marked in receiver left side
The last rifle marking proves rifle mfg by savage rifle co??


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Suplement rifle wrist markings
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You have some interesting rifles!

The middle one (with the brass unit disc).
Is that a magazine cut off fitted to a No4 Mk1?
:shock:
That is VERY unusual!
More pics, please!

The "square"S"" is the identifier for Savage Arms, in Chicopee falls MA, USA, but the serial number is not! Savage arms serial numbers were ##C####!
So you have a Savage-made rifle that was made into a sniper version! It is a a No4 Mk1(with the spring-loaded bolt catch at the rear), which has been renumbered somewhere! (India maybe???)
The bottom rifle seems to be a No 4 Mk1*, which means Long Branch (Canada) or Savage as earlier, but the later version!

Scope repros.
There are 2 repro makers, one kind of OK, (but not great), the other *meh* at best. There are also 2 "Marks" of the original scope, the biggest difference being the method of adjusting the reticule for zero.
Can you get pics of any markings on the scope & did it come with an adjusting tool? if so a pic of the tool will help as well.

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Hi Roy, been a while. Hows life?
Any new projects?
I finished my unicorn, a u s model 1917 rebuilt to as it would have looked in 198. The recieber is a Remington made in april 1918..
those are some very nice rifles there.
I have a sporter no 4 mk1 done by parker hale. A maltby from 1943. Barrel was cut of course which was a shame as tge reciever, bokt and barrel match.
I had wanted to do a restoration. Then a jungle carbine. But jn the last couple of years i have been thinking of doing a no 4(faux) sniper. New criterion baffel. New wood. The works.
I have read some good reviews on tgd new madr sxopes. As far as accuacy , have you been able to collwct data first hand? If so how was it?
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I will take time and post extra photos on the mag cut-off and scope area with markings.
Roy

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Hi Charles!!
Thanks for checking in.
I will say at my age my health is good and things going as best as can be expected.
I, have slowed down on my projects and posting on the Forum,
Thanks again
Roy

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I am doing pretty good myself. Only taking seven pills a dauy. And two of those are vitamin d and asprin. :D
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Photos as promised to follow
I have a large collection of Enfield rifles and at my age have never seen a No 4mk1
rifle with a mag cut-off.As per the rifle with the large S and the flaming bomb.
Most would say a Savage rifle mfg, but who knows.
Thanks for the info on the repo scope. Mine came without a scope tool.
At this point and time, I will not order an other repo scope.
I may just put the last rifle up for sale
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Close up photos of No 4mk1 original rifle with brass fittings
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Photos showing close up of No 4mk1 repo scope and markings
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All very nice. And i haven"t seen a mag cutoff on a no4 mk 2 or two ever.. gotta wonder about that. Why? Early production? A screw up woth no1 mk iii plans slipping into the mix?
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I went asking & digging & found this bit of information, supported by posts elsewhere asking about this.
R.S.A.F. ENFIELD CONVERSIONS 
In 1941 and early 1942, 1,403 Lee-Enfield No. 4 MK. I rifles were converted at Royal Small Arms Factory Enfield. Most, but not all, of these were 1931 and 1933 Trials rifles. A very few of these early conversions by Enfield were Stevens-Savage made in the USA and a few may have been made by Maltby and BSA. Rifles converted by them are marked with a tiny Enfield examiner’s stamp on the top of the front scope pad and NO “S51” stamp on the underside of the butt stock.

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Roy you never cease to amaze me on your collection.

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Thanks Mike:
Good to hear from you!!
How are you doing?
Any new projects?
AT my age,I am gust hanging in there.
Thanks again
Roy

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