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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 10:06 am 
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Agree the shooter makes the difference. My favorites are my 6 groove SC 03A3, the Garand, and my 1898 Krag.


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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2016 5:05 pm 
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im a go for 03-a3 especially if you wrap your own. gotta love their sight picture, its by far my best shooting rifle, I have to go with the 03 since I have only shot a k31 once. ps the straight pull although it works fine it feels way to weird lol


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 11:54 am 
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We all have our favorites. But if you are really looking for the "most accurate" then you should look at the matches where they are fired head to head.

That would be the CMP Vintage Rifle Matches. Not all rifles are equal, so the CMP divides them up into catagories.

That Garand Match
The Springfield Match
The Military Match

The Military Match consist of all other surplus military rifles.

If you go to the matches, or if you check the CMPs, competition section of ODCMP.COM, you'll find out the winning scores come from the Springfield Category.

Also the CMP gives out badges, gold, silver and bronze, in each category, if a certain score is met.
The cut off scores for the Springfield is the highest, followed closely by the Garand, and then the Military or all others.

The Springfield category covers the M1903 and M1903a3. The best scores are fired with the 'a3, not because its more accurate, but with the rear peep sight, and longer sight radius, its easier to shoot accurately by most people.

Also when you move to the Vintage Sniper Matches, the M1903a2 (often called the M1941) Marine Version or the M1903A4 normal win the matches.

The M1917 is pretty accurate, and a good one might keep up with the springfields, but it lacks the windage adjustments. Also, for me anyway, the Cock on Closing Bolt, cost me a few points in Rapid Fire.

Not to say the odd Swiss, or Swede, or others might be the exception, but that is the exception. On the whole, none beat the M1903/A3s.

This isn't one man's opinion, its fact borne out by the scores fired in head to head completion.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:49 am 
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The big three I hear the most about are K31, M96 Swede, and Finn M39. I can attest to the M39 being very sweet and easy handling.
I have a 1917, the bolt and the trigger are nowhere near as nice, but that's just talking about the "feel". I've never had a chance to really test what they can do


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:48 pm 
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My most accurate milsurps. With the right loads these will all shoot very tight groups. I also have an old Turk Mauser that shoots WWII Turk ammo MOA out to 300 yds., but I've posted the max for attachments.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:22 pm 
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I would have too say my Finnish M-39 and Lee Enfield No 4 mkI...

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:36 pm 
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A major point is the shooter. Some folks shoot extremely with a given make rifle, because they compete regularly with it. I am surprised the Swiss rifles aren't in the top few, but they are not a "regular" in most competition.

The M1917 is an excellent and very accurate rifle. There's a few reasons some don't like it, besides the lack of windage adjustment, it's big and heavy. I used one for many years and recently had to replace the barrel. It's inherently just as accurate as a Springfield, and easier on the shoulder. It is more to carry around as a utility rifle in the woods though, but I find the sights to be far better, and the bolt is not an issue once you get used to it.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:56 pm 
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The rifle I seem to do best with is my M1886 M93. Great sights and really great bore-rebarreled by the arsenal in 1920. I'm pretty decent with the Enfield Pattern 1914, but not as good as with the Lebel.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:39 pm 
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azdeputyclerk, glad to hear it!
I used a Lebel for a year as a utility rifle on my land and really came to like it.
It's been the most unjustly disparaged combat rifle of WWI.

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