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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:50 pm 
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My two youngest and I were fixing to go for a walk this afternoon and I had just stepped out the back door. Movement caught my eye, and I spotted an ol' coyote about 100 yards out. Chambered a round into my Savage Mark II, took aim thru the BSA Classic 4x32 and squeezed the trigger. Hit her in the shoulder and she dropped. I quickly made my way over to where she dropped and heard her rustling. I placed the .22 on the ground and drew my Smith. As I rounded a small shrub, she lifted her head and I took the shot. I found it odd that a coyote would venture so close during daylight hours. Our neighbor has goats and we have cattle, so coyotes are given no quater.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:41 pm 
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Good shooting maybe you should start calling coyotes. They are challenge to call in and shoot. I enjoy the sport very much. I started because I didn't have the money for a hunting license while in college. My state doesn't protect them or have a special season it is shoot on sight.

Don't be to surprised. Coyotes have been getting more aggressive. There have been more and more reports of coyote attacks. The most recent one i read about was a up and coming music star in Canada. 2 coyotes attacked her and she died.

Coyotes teach there young what they learn. If they learn to not fear humans they learn that humans could be food. Children that have been attacked where playing. Have you ever listened to children play or watched they make eradicate movements and sound like prey animals. Coyotes see this a eating opportunity.

I read an article in predator extreme magizine that talked about that very thing. Trappers have noticed when they check their traps coyotes want to fight. normally they go to the end of the chain to get as far away as possible from the trapper.

Some of us in the predator community believe shooting coyotes may temporarily reduce the numbers in a given area. But that allows new coyotes to expand into new area. Coyotes have only expanded there range, and will continue to do so.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:15 pm 
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diamond_c wrote:
... so coyotes are given no quater.

Same story here. Ranchers in our area are very happy anytime one is taken out, 'cause of the threat to their livestock.
Yeah, i also saw that story of the young lady killed in Canada. I don't think twice whenever i see one in the wild.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:19 am 
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Well its open season for them here in Connecticut , I think it's the only animal that we can hunt year round.
I have not been hunting in years , and never seen them when i did , now we see them all the time , the state DEP even wants the carcasses for research.
Looks like I may be looking into a new sport!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:28 am 
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The killing them on sight argument dosen't have much creedence with me cuz I'm born and rasied in a swamp in Merritt Island,Fla.
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That's fine, but you've never had your wife & kids chased in your own backyard by coyotes. I'm done with the "they're not a danger" attitude.

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Nice shot.

A couple days ago I was sitting outside with my father and his friend, along with my dog by a fire.

Heard a howl out behind us and in front of us a howl in reply followed by some kind of yipping no more than 200 yards out, sounded like a whole pack and were on the move along the treeline, could even hear their footfalls.

My dog took notice and got up, so I grabbed him before he took off and brought him inside.

I guess that's why we haven't seen many deer, rabbits, stray cats or pheasants lately.


We also saw one during the day earlier that week.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:22 pm 
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I'm planning to start calling them in. Anyone have a recommendation of a good calling device?

I know Cabela’s and the like stores have quite a selection, but which one to choose?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:09 pm 
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depends on how much you want to spend. What works for me is I have 2 open reed howlers made by primos. They are the little dog howler. I use one closed reed call a circe with three different reeds in it. I also us the foxpro FX3. It has a remote and there are 30 sounds on the unit. it is programmable to change the sounds. There is the FX5 next one up from mine. and I believe they make a caller called scorpion that is much smaller. I also use a feather tied to a stick for a decoy. Sorry for all the plugs for foxpro but that what i have been using. Foxpro also makes a decoy that can be run with their callers. I would begin with a closed reed caller becasue they are the easiest to use. Also use some camo to break up your outline. I am not saying to buy the latest and supposedly best camo pattern. I use a set of desart BDU's in the tri colored patern. I am working on building my ghillie suit but that is another matter entirely. learning to call is the easy part. Fooling a coyotes eyes and nose is the real challenge. if I had a dime I finished a set and walked out and had been busted by a yote coming in the back door well............... lets just say my collection would be huge. PM me I will try and help also I believe snotsucker is a predator hunter or his brother is from some of the pictures I have seen.
http://www.allpredatorcalls.com/ This site has everything you could want for calling predators and they are great to deal with.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:28 am 
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rustybuttplate wrote:
I just recently inherited 90 acres in Hudspeth county Texas. Biggest county I ever had cause to confront. I'm no bleeding heart but after reading your post it does my heart good to know coyotes have a small amount of range. I'll never shoot one if it can be avoided, and if someone offs one without cause I'll be upset. The killing them on sight argument dosen't have much creedence with me cuz I'm born and rasied in a swamp in Merritt Island,Fla. That was prolific with bobcats,wilddogs,coyotes,alligators and snakes, we weren't raising any livestock otherwise I'd feel different. As it is I'd just as well like to give that coyote,bobcat or alligator a second chance cuz I know most people won't.


I have had many pets killed by Coyotes, I grew up on a farm in Texas, and have no problem with taking one out.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:42 pm 
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Healthiest thing for coyotes is that they get shot at. They smarten up quickly and stay away from people like they should. Best for coyotes and best for humans.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:26 am 
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rustybuttplate wrote:
I just recently inherited 90 acres in Hudspeth county Texas. Biggest county I ever had cause to confront. I'm no bleeding heart but after reading your post it does my heart good to know coyotes have a small amount of range. I'll never shoot one if it can be avoided, and if someone offs one without cause I'll be upset. The killing them on sight argument dosen't have much creedence with me cuz I'm born and rasied in a swamp in Merritt Island,Fla. That was prolific with bobcats,wilddogs,coyotes,alligators and snakes, we weren't raising any livestock otherwise I'd feel different. As it is I'd just as well like to give that coyote,bobcat or alligator a second chance cuz I know most people won't.

+1. I don't like to kill anything anymore but, given the chance, I might reconsider for some two legged animals. However, my father was a half-breed Seneca Indian that taught me to respect all animals. He also taught me that I would eat or otherwise use what ever I did kill. Very valuable lesson. I have been within feet of fox and coyote in the woods here in Kansas with no casualties either way. They do have a habit that would get them shot by me if I catch them at it. They like to lure out pets (dogs) and then attack and kill them. A friend told me of witnessing this. His little house dog was lured out into the pasture and then the pack took out after it. It was running toward the house for it's life when his big lab/mastiff mix intervened. I would have loved to have seen that. :lol:

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I have to agree with (rustybuttplate) on this one , you protect your dog , but you would kill one of (GODS) dogs for no reason ?..... [-X

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Yep. But there is a reason...'cause I prefer other animals live in my area; if the coyote will go somewhere else, I'll let it live too.
Did any of you notice that those who are against shooting them, live where other things can prey on them? In my area, there are no more predators that kill coyotes. That is true in most of America, including the wide open West.
If we don't control the coyotes, they WILL breed and move into cities, kill pets, and even small people. That's a pretty good reason, I'd say.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:53 pm 
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The only predators coyotes have in Kansas are men and feral dog packs. Those are worse than the coyotes I must say as much as I like dogs.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:44 pm 
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With all due respect fellas, we are talking about a natural born predator that showed no fear of human...not a domesticated and vaccinated pet. For those of us who's partial income is derived from raising livestock, culling the predator population is part of it, whether it be an aggressive or opportunistic approach.

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