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Last ditch?

Arisaka, Murata, Siamese, Korean, and North China Rifles
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Last ditch?

#1 Post by Pauljbk » Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:14 pm

This one I was told could be a last ditch or was a training rifle and that the writing on the stock was a racking number from a school, what do you guys think? Thanks Paul
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#2 Post by burban89 » Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:23 pm

Definitely a last ditch rifle. The other factor is if it has rifling in the barrel, which is an indicator as to whether it can be shot or not. Sometimes rack numbers can be found on the stock however the arsenal or warehouse they were stored at can also be found.

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Re: Last ditch?

#3 Post by B32dominator » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:03 pm

Yes, that is a series 8 Nagoya built Type 99. It looks to be in very good shape. I highly doubt it was a school rifle, school rifles were usually old beat up Type 38 rifles. This one would have been probably stock pulled for the impending inavasion of the home islands. Not sure what the characters are on the buttstock though.

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Re: Last ditch?

#4 Post by Pauljbk » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:50 pm

It does have a rifled barrel, this one came from a grandparent who was in the navy and we have the letter he sent home to his parents saying he's sending two rifles back as a souvenirs along with hundreds of other letters and some pictures. Thanks for the information!
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Re: Last ditch?

#5 Post by apachedawg » Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:40 pm

Training rifles usually have a "00" stamped in front of the serial number.

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Re: Last ditch?

#6 Post by burban89 » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:24 pm

apachedawg wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:40 pm
Training rifles usually have a "00" stamped in front of the serial number.
The "00" mark in front of the serial number is just a way to show that a weapon was removed from service and given to some organization like a school or veteran's association. Training rifles never had rifling so they were never pressed into military service aside from their normal duties as educational tools. School rifles on the other hand have 00's in front of their serial numbers because they were retired either due to the fact that they were older firearms or because they failed to meet military standards at the time for whatever reason. These rifles did have rifling and can shoot live ammo whereas training rifles cannot fire a live round

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Re: Last ditch?

#7 Post by apachedawg » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:54 am

You are correct. I was confusing training and school rifles.

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