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Ever see this kind of Type 99 rifle

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Ever see this kind of Type 99 rifle

#1 Post by Hippycrowe » Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:39 pm

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/766437957

I have never saw one before

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#2 Post by indy1919a4 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:22 am

I love converted rifles like this.. I have seen a couple of these over the years.. They are neat. But I do know that there are some fakes out there. I have never
been told how to tell the fakes from real ones..

But this one has the sloppiest "US CAL 30" I have ever seen.. I also like the Chinese captured Japanese rifles that are converted to 8mm.

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#3 Post by Hippycrowe » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:00 am

I saw a Type 38 converted to 8mm that action is very strong wow

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#4 Post by lloydiam » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:45 am

I have a buddy who has a converted Type 99, it's NOT real accurate with factory ammo, they were just chamber reamed to accept the .30-06, but the bore is still .311.........
To get one to shoot real accurate, you have to reload for it.........

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#5 Post by Hippycrowe » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:00 pm

Kinda like the 8mm-06 Mausers

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#6 Post by indy1919a4 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:05 pm

Hippycrowe wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:00 pm
Kinda like the 8mm-06 Mausers
Crap whats not to like about 8mm-06... its an 8mm. but more :)

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#7 Post by Smokey » Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:46 pm

I believe it was during the Korean War. US ordinance folks cut .30-06 chambers into a batch of Japanese Type 99 rifles. It was used with the standard US M2 Ball ammunition. From what I understand, they shot well enough, and were used to arm some Korean troops. I'm guessing the bullet was still engraved by the rifling; and the exposed flat base may have expanded like a Minie bullet to fit the bore. The action is very strong and safe if in good condition. Maybe try it if you can find some flat-base 30-06 ball ammo.
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#8 Post by lloydiam » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:25 pm

Smokey is right, the Arisaka is a strong action & a fine rifle, just stay away from the Last ditch 99's, them NOT so good !............

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#9 Post by Burner » Sun May 13, 2018 11:27 am

Nothing wrong with any so called "last ditch".
They are just not as fancy.
The Bad rifle reputation came from ocupation troops. The idiots would try to fire live ammo from cast iron school rifles.
And from blank rifles with sub size bores.
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#10 Post by Geokop » Sun May 13, 2018 2:18 pm

Exactly as Burner said above. Japanese training rifles were marked on top of the receiver not to fire live ammunition, or something very close to this effect. Americans who didn't read Japanese would bring home one of these trainers and try to fire regular ammo through it. Boom!
Last ditches were safe, just not well-finished cosmetically. The Japanese wern't going to produce something that would kill their own troops.

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#11 Post by Greenmachine » Sat May 19, 2018 9:18 am

Geokop wrote:
Sun May 13, 2018 2:18 pm
Exactly as Burner said above. Japanese training rifles were marked on top of the receiver not to fire live ammunition, or something very close to this effect. Americans who didn't read Japanese would bring home one of these trainers and try to fire regular ammo through it. Boom!
Last ditches were safe, just not well-finished cosmetically. The Japanese wern't going to produce something that would kill their own troops.
So I guess a Kamikaze pilot is another subject then

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#12 Post by retread12345678 » Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:20 pm

I have seen a few of these One was a TYPE 38 rifle, one a "last ditch TYPE 99 rifle. Also have seen photos of these being modified in Honeycutts book
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#13 Post by Smokey » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:08 am

M2 Ball would possibly shoot OK in the rifle with the flat exposed lead base.
I also wonder if loads with heavier Nostler Partition bullets might also expand to fill the grooves.
http://shop.nosler.com/nosler-bullets/p ... -50ct.html

Probably the easiest approach is to just use 150gr 0.312 bullets. Those shoot well in every "oversize 30 cal" rifle I've tried them in.
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