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Re: Carcano Cavalry Carbine

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:11 pm
by indy1919a4
72 usmc wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:29 pm
These pig sticker carbines are fun. here is one of mine. Fun toys to shoot. Someones bring back with original sling. None of these had import marks. I liked these but never got one of the small kids ones.

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Any ideas on what the top line of lettering is from.. Looks kinda Arabic??

Re: Carcano Cavalry Carbine

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:27 pm
by 72 usmc
No idea on stamps. They must have been in a hurry or had too much wine.

Re: Carcano Cavalry Carbine

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:19 am
by vandle
Thanks for posting your carbine, it makes the topic more informative.
The reputation that Carcano receives is undeserving.
As you mentioned the carbine is fun to shoot and so compact and light.

Even so prices for these is not that cheap down in Oz but in saying that
the days of cheap mil surps is long gone.

Re: Carcano Cavalry Carbine

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:50 pm
by slowbob2
The X's and such are the Roman numerals for the date .

Re: Carcano Cavalry Carbine

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:04 pm
by 72 usmc
XIX =19 II=2
In addition to the manufacturer's identifying logo, the year of production (up until mid-1943) and the serial number should be imprinted on the chamber end of the barrel. The year of production is typically a 2 to 4 digit number indicating the year. For example a gun manufactured in 1918 may have a shortened year such as '918' or "18" imprinted. In addition to the A.D. Christian year, there is from 1929 until 1943, the year of the Fascist Era (which was counted from the March on Rome in autumn 1922) also stamped in Roman numerals on most barrels. Since Fascist year and common era year are not identical (just like secular and liturgical year diverge from each other), this allows to identify whether a gun was produced before or after the anniversary day of the March on Rome in a given year.
Typical serial numbers of Carcani consist of either 1 or 2 letters followed by 4 numbers. Guns produced at Roma in late World War I often have a 'OR-' prefix before their whole serial number. Some guns with a number only also exist.
see

http://personal.stevens.edu/~gliberat/c ... odels.html

Re: Carcano Cavalry Carbine

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:15 pm
by indy1919a4
Wow, many thanks to all about the roman numbers

Re: Carcano Cavalry Carbine

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:20 pm
by 72 usmc
2 nice books on Italian firearms. Ralph Riccio is a good writer:




Re: Carcano Cavalry Carbine

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:27 pm
by indy1919a4
Well I tell you.. I have resisted these Cavalry Carbines for years.. In Honesty I just did not go for the look...

But after looking at those this and those wonderful training Carcanos and then that toy Carcano that M67 posted I realize I have made a mistake not going after these earlier... Every time I think I am done with a rifle line they pull me back in...

Re: Carcano Cavalry Carbine

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:20 pm
by 72 usmc
see this review of mine: viewtopic.php?f=87&t=1626

Re: Carcano Cavalry Carbine

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:06 am
by vandle
indy1919a4 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:27 pm
Well I tell you.. I have resisted these Cavalry Carbines for years.. In Honesty I just did not go for the look...

But after looking at those this and those wonderful training Carcanos and then that toy Carcano that M67 posted I realize I have made a mistake not going after these earlier... Every time I think I am done with a rifle line they pull me back in...
go on I dare you :icon-mrgreen:

Re: Carcano Cavalry Carbine

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:52 pm
by S.B.
Nice! I seldom see Carconos at central Illinois gunshows? Wish I did.
Steve