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Norwegian K98s

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Re: Norwegian K98s

#31 Post by Calfed » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:48 pm

Pretty good shooting, Lumberjack. Do you know what the bullet weight and muzzle velocity of the Norwegian military ammo is?

I haven't shot my Norwegian K98 much, but when I first got it, I shot a few rounds at 50 yards to make sure the sights were on. I used 150 gr Federal Powershok ammunition

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Then fired a few more at 100 yards.

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The coin in the picture is just under 25mm and the 10 ring in the 100 yard target is about 51mm

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Re: Norwegian K98s

#32 Post by Lumberjack » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:03 pm

Norwegian military ball was the same as US M2 ammunition (152 grain fmj flat base bullet ) at approximately 850 m/s, unntil the 60's when it was replaced by a 146 grain fmjbt bullet similar to the one in Norwegian 7.62 Nato military ball.
Military 3006 ammunition was produced by raufoss ammunisjonsfabrikk (raufoss ammunition factory) 1950-1989 (maybe later too)

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Re: Norwegian K98s

#33 Post by Calfed » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:26 pm

Norwegian ammunition is good stuff.

I've got several hundred rounds of "AYR" 56 headstamped 30.06 AP black tip ammunition and it shoots very well.

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#34 Post by Lumberjack » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:16 am

Raufoss produced AYR headstamped 30-06 ammunition, both AP and ball in 1954-1956, some of it was delivered to US military, some of it was delivered Norwegian military. (1951-1953 and 1957-1960's the headstamp was RA and year 2 or 4 digit). Some years from the 1960's the headstamp was RAUFOSS and in the 1980's headstamp was only a Production code and 7.62X63 /30-06.



Norwegian military ammunition is really good stuff, most of the 6,5X55 and 30-06 delivered by raufoss to the military after the 60's was in fact match grade ammunition. The 7.62X51 Nato was also very good. Some lots from Raufoss is so good it could had been match grade ammunition and shoots 1/2 moa Groups all day long in good rifles.

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Re: Norwegian K98s

#35 Post by Calfed » Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:23 am

Do you have any idea when Raufoss stopped using corrosive primers in their 30.06 ammunition?

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#36 Post by Lumberjack » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:54 am

Im not sure. Some people say 1957.
I guess all the AYR marked ammo can be with corrosive primers.
All the raufoss older than 1960 is to be considered possibly corrosive in my opinion.

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Re: Norwegian K98s

#37 Post by Calfed » Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:31 pm

Lumberjack wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:54 am
Im not sure. Some people say 1957.
I guess all the AYR marked ammo can be with corrosive primers.
All the raufoss older than 1960 is to be considered possibly corrosive in my opinion.
I've been treating it like corrosive, luckily.

Tell me, Lumberjack...are M59 target rifles common over there? Would love to get one, but can't seem to find them over here

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Re: Norwegian K98s

#38 Post by Lumberjack » Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:50 pm

M59 are still quite common, some thousand was sold to civillians in the 60's, and the military sold some to officers some 10-20 years ago. Some guns are modified to hunting or sniper rifles. But due to restrict gun laws a lot of those guns are delivered to the police for destruction.

I belleive the succsessor M67 is more common on civillian hands, because it was sold to civillians for decades (my guess is that 25 000 M67 or more was delivered to civillians, based on serial numbers i know)

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Re: Norwegian K98s

#39 Post by Calfed » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:14 pm

I've got a number of Kongsberg K98 barrels...several are K98 profile, chambered in .308. Those are in the white. I also have a couple of longer Kongsberg "target barrels". They are heavier profile and turned down at the muzzle, possibly for a front sight. None of the barrels have ever been mounted.

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Re: Norwegian K98s

#40 Post by Lumberjack » Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:44 am

I guess they that you have m59 barrels if they are approx 70 cm long, and 19mm at muzzle (behind the turned down area wich is for front sight)
The military sold stockpiles of those barrels some years ago.

The m98 profile barrels are maybe for m98 conversions to 7.62 Nato. I have heard rumors of them. But i have never seen any such rifle build by the military. I guess 254000 ag3 rifles was enough...

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Re: Norwegian K98s

#41 Post by Calfed » Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:25 pm

This is the Kongsberg barrel that I have a couple of...

https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product ... l?a=408074

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Re: Norwegian K98s

#42 Post by Lumberjack » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:47 pm

M59 barrel. Are they 7.62 nato or 3006?

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Re: Norwegian K98s

#43 Post by Calfed » Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:30 pm

7.62 Nato.

I've got a sported K98 laying around. If I could find a proper stock and sights, I would be on my way to a faux M59.

Did the M67 use the same barrel?

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#44 Post by Lumberjack » Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:53 am

Almost the same, but its 19mm at muzzle (without the turned down area for front sight)
M67 barrels also have a slightly different profile. The first years they were more like the M59 barrels you have, and later they were more conical all the way (slightly heavyer). M67 uses a different front sight.
I willl try to get some pictures one day im home.

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Re: Norwegian K98s

#45 Post by Calfed » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:18 pm

Thanks, LJ.

Are M59 sights and stocks available in Norway?

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