"Quote Originally Posted by Clint Meier View Post
Howdy gents! I don't chime in here much at all because of an acute lack of expert knowledge on my part on most of the topics discussed, but do read here a lot and have learned much. For that, I thank you all! With my curiosity aroused, I clicked on the link to view the video. After viewing the video and forming my own opinion(s) regarding the many many stampings present, I clicked on the link to their web site just below the video window. Upon scrolling down that page a bit and coming to
Brutus' Description, he clearly states :
To my trained eye, they appear to be professionally refurbished and I would say that is the case because you simply never see these rifles in this kind of condition otherwise.
Also, although all of the bores appear serviceable the inside of the rifles reflects a degree of wear that is not evident on the outside.
That is not a criticism of the bore condition (although bores are what they are and we do not warranty for bore condition) but it is simply saying that some of the bores show evidence of use such as a truly used battle rifle would, while the external condition of the rifles do not.
Also the stocks appear to be refurbished due to the lack of dents and dings, and certainly the white in the markings are not 100% original because on non-refurbs that is typically worn off long ago.
Now, I will be the first to admit that I am not familiar with this company's selling practices, their ethics, or their reputation for honesty/dishonesty, but it seems to me that he is laying it all out there if you are willing to read what he has to say.
I agree with what BenedictGomez had to say though - 'caveat emptor and all that'. Where is the fault here? It seems to me that he is being tarred and feathered in this forum a bit unjustly, or am I the one who is looking at this all wrong? I am not condoning dishonesty or misrepresentation by any means, but am curious as to what you think now of my point of view on this and why. Thank you!"
First, the guy is in the business of selling firearms. Second, it's neither his first rodeo nor his first day on the job. He has seen enough rifles going through his store to pick up some clues here and there. Just like a veteran used car salesman can tell genuine factory paint from an Earl Scheib job, Fat Ben can tell a real Mauser from a hump job. Not only that, he knows the source of the hump jobs. Standing there with a straight face and talking bullsheet about the junk he's peddling north of 1 grand is what we are faulting him for. He knows they are fake, he knows the bores a sewer pipes (WTH does "serviceable" mean anyways?) and he still carries on with the dog and pony show. How can he be so clueless and think nothing about the identical WaA655 stamps on almost all stocks but then he shows off his "ex-spurt knowledge", prattling about a humped up Banner Mauser being an ekzperi-mental prototype and the RC number on the butt stock being a "rack number"?
"Professionally refurbished" means, you take 68 Camaro and turn all parts back into original, like new condition. Then you tape the build sheet to the rear passenger window and show it off on Cruise Night, waiting for someone to make you an offer. You wouldn't buy a 68 without an engine or swapped engine, put in another engine from 69 Camaro, grind the numbers out of the 69 engine and re-stamp it with the numbers from the 68 engine you found on the build sheet, then come up with a story why your 68 is ekzperi-mental because it has a numbers matching 69 engine. But the humpsters from which Fat Ben buys, they would.