Military Surplus k98ks commonly found at gun shows

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Re: Military Surplus k98ks commonly found at gun shows

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Added correct views. Corrections made in this re edit. Go figure. I guess it just makes actually finding a copy of the magazine more important.
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Re: Military Surplus k98ks commonly found at gun shows

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Libertrytreecollectors has just found & sold a Czech sterile/ground receiver K98k with a non winter trigger guard. A great example of a Post war ground Czech K98k. But it has British proofs and no import marks. A very nice example.

They have some great photos and these are all of theirs:
This offering is for the pictured Czech K98 Mauser rifle. In very good looking condition, we understand these to have been made in 1945 or the immediate post war years from the arsenals at Brno.

Serial numbers no longer match and many of the parts bear German WW2 inspector markings. Metal finish is fully blued with slight silvering on the sharp edges. Military crest is removed from the receivers top. Additional British firing proofs have been added for commercial resale in England.

Hardwood stock and hand guard are sound with minor dings and compressions.

8mm Mauser Not Import marked.
Source:All photos are Libertytreecollectors
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Re: Military Surplus k98ks commonly found at gun shows

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Two More of the Czech sterile ground receiver K98 without an Arctic trigger guard. No import mark and British proofs
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British marks:
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Re: Military Surplus k98ks commonly found at gun shows

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So here are some photos of the Mitchell box and over the years the goodies that came with the replica-like, U.S. made over, humped K98 rifle. The contents of the collector box :shifty: depended on what was on hand and what grade you purchased.
Since I never got snookered, I do not own one, as a result these photos have been taken from on line source photos produced by a "Mitchell K98"search. If you can find one in the box at half price, say $200 they make good shooters. :think:
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Here is a view of a Mitchell import mark on the barrel. Notice the poor condition of blue on this "Souvenir" grade Mitchell. Their Premium and Collector grades had better condition sourced/selected RCs. first photo "Souvenir grade", second photo "Collector grade"
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Here are close ups of the Mitchell restamped numbers a non German font: "Sure do match..." :lol:
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The 8mm ammo that they sold , Storemans 2014 old photo see link for photos only. these items have been sold eons ago http://www.trapshooters.com/threads/8-m ... ll.207009/
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Re: Military Surplus k98ks commonly found at gun shows

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Mitchell expensive ammo in the red box has their special headstamp, "MITCHELL 8mm Mauser" It is new PPU made Yugo 8mm specially reheadstamped for you to display your rifle :dance: :doh: :snooty: :lol:
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here is a view of the back of the box if the old link goes dead. Source Storeman.
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:shhh: :shifty: :confusion-confused: Let me think, Blue box PPU at 14.95, or Mitchell's red box PPU at $25 :think:
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Re: Military Surplus k98ks commonly found at gun shows

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Another Czech K98, but still in 8mm, an early specimen


Old guns .com actually had an 8mm Czech K98 in 8mm mauser that was not converted. This is a hard one to find at gun shows, but they must still be out there. Source of the pictures are old guns- their pictorial mosaic . This specimen, a DOT 1945 was still in 8mm mauser and not rebulit into .308. A rare bird at any gun show. It has a mismatched bolt and winter/arctic trigger guard with non removable floor plate. NO 7.62 STAMP on receiver or burned into the stock.
K98K 8MM MAUSER RIFLE- DOT 1945 - made by Waffenwerke Brunn, Czechoslovakia, also written as Brno in 1945. This is a rifle which was made under German occupation, but never completely assembled before the end of the war. The Czechs later completed these with additional parts, especially the large bow stamped trigger guard, for sales to whoever would buy them. Many ended up being used in the Israeli war for independence in 1947
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Thanks for taking the time to put this together! Lots of great info here

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Did not know Mitchells had their own headstamped ammo, that is pretty cool.. You know you have made it when you have your own headstamped ammo :)...

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If you are going to print this POST out, the new forum with fixed pictures prints out whole pages lacking any photo splits on a page, just that each page requires approximately 20-40 pages per page (1-6) to print out: page 1 , then page 2 ... . Then if you want the references source pictures and additional internal linked references it uses more ink and pages. I got maybe approximately 300 pages and used a good amount of black ink and an entire $37 HP color XL cartridge to print this out so I have a paper format. If you use 100% size and print direct with your printer, you get a blue background which just sucks up your color toner- you would most likely use 2 color toner cartridges rather than just one. So to print out the main post and to remove the extra blue background :arrow: :idea: go to the tools at the top of the page ( see the little wrench) and click on the "wrench" , then select "PRINT VIEW" and this produces a white page back ground and saves color ink. However, when you get to the comments this will not work because some info. is deleted by this print process. You must print out the comments by just using ink and hit "print" on your computer and do not use the "Forum Print View in the tools section" . As for the many internal links each must be printed out individually and then you can select just the photos or additional info if you want from each reference. So to print this out you will use 1/2 a B&W toner cartridge and an entire color Xl color cartridge. Figure about 40 bucks in ink. :shhh: :snooty: :doh: :doh: BUT I LIKE PAPER, and if there is another crash I have a copy. :whistle:
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Here are a ton of pictures (47) of an actual bring back K98k with excellent close up views of the serial numbers and correct fonts, stock color, and markings. Notice the slight differences in serial number fonts on different parts. They are not all the same, close but not the same like the fakers do , or see on a Mitchell. The best specimen of a bring back you will see. :o :o :text-bravo:
A true Museum piece. You have to view this specimen. What dreams are made of...
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Here is the worst example of a Russian Capture K98 I have seen. It's source is from" Fine Old Guns" . The Description and the many fine pictures are theirs. Notice no line outs to the original German serial numbers. A good example of the electro pencil gone crazy. Ivan was in a real hurry with that electro pencil. :lol:

WW2 GERMAN KAR98K 8MM MAUSER RIFLE (DUV 1944) (FROM THE HART COLLECTION!) Serial number 97642 on the action and electric penciled on the bolt. This rifle was made by the Berliner-Lübecker Maschinenfabrik, Lubeck plant in 1944 as indicated by the duv 44 on the receiver ring. Other then the force matched bole, other numbers are mismatched as this is a rifle captured by the Russians and eventually arsenal overhauled and placed into storage until sold off on the surplus market in the1990s. This has an “X” stamped above the serial number, but the waffenamt eagles are not defaced. Excellent bore and mechanics. About 99% of the arsenal blue refinish remains. The stock is in excellent condition but uglier than the inside of a communist prison with a coat of excrement brown varnish or shellac, but the German walnut hiding underneath can be freed with a simple treatment of paint removed and a quick coat of oil finish. When this is done, it will be an excellent example of the primary German WW2 battle rifle, and quite likely one that some poor German conscript carried into the dismal weather of the Eastern Front before it ended up in the hands of the Russian hordes.
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Vietnam Russian Capture K98k rifles "RC" bring backs. The source is Calguns.net-Saigon1965

Interesting older post on RCs .
https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/sho ... ?t=1351807


Rc K98k that are bring backs from Nam, see above link, ALL pics are Saigon1965
For what it's worth - None of my 3 RC that came back from Vietnam are X'ed out -
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Better pictures and a must see link of the same rifles by Saigon1965's K98k bring back RCs see this lower link:
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Then there are the ones commonly referred to as Balkan Mausers as no one really knows where exactly they came from. I've got one of these, I'll have to repost the pictures of it.
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