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French 1884 rifle

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:34 am
by dogtrk
Just picked this up. Not at all familiar with French military arms. Model 1884 dated 1885. Is this a rare rifle? Can't find much out about it. Sorry for the bad pictures. Thanks Dogtrk.

Re: French 1884 rifle

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:24 pm
by dogtrk
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dogtrk wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:34 am
Just picked this up. Not at all familiar with French military arms. Model 1884 dated 1885. Is this a rare rifle? Can't find much out about it. Sorry for the bad pictures. Thanks Dogtrk.

Re: French 1884 rifle

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:03 pm
by SWIHARTMARK
I am guessing it is a GRAS rifle. More info would be helpful. The Lebel was introduced in 1886 I believe. Your GRAS I presume might be chambered for its original round, or something else. Many conversions were done.

Best Regards,

Mark

Re: French 1884 rifle

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:46 am
by kelt
This is a precursor of the Mle 1886 Lebel!

This Mle 1884 rifle originally in caliber 11mm is an improved version made by MAS and MAC for the French Army of the Model 1878 Kropatschek built at Steyr for the French Navy (25.000 pieces) who had not bought in the Gras system.

About 52.000 rifles Mle 1884 were made at MAS and a lesser unknown quantity made at MAC (30.000?).

In 1914, the French Army still had a total of 122.000 rifles Mle 1878, 84, 74-85 and 85 in storage, 80.000 were sent to Tsarist Russia in 1915 with a batch of Gras 74 to fight on the eastern front and a few of the survivors were sent in 1937 by the USSR to arm the Spanish Republican army to be bought later by Interarm Co for sales in the USA.

kelt