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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:19 pm 
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Title of the subject say it all.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:37 pm 
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For the US Army?

I had M500 shotguns, with 6 shot tubes in my Armsroom in 2013.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 2:36 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:28 pm 
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What ever happened with that full auto shotgun? I think it was called the AA 12 or something?

Did that ever go anywhere with the military?

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I've only seen and/or used the Mossberg 500s and the one made for the MWS, the M26.


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In 2004, ten firing models of the AA-12 (Atchisson Assault Shotgun) were produced and demonstrated to the United States Marine Corps.

http://www.gizmag.com/aa-12-combat-shotgun-frag-12-automatic/11393/

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:58 pm 
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Thanks Popeye. That's exactly the one I was thinking about.

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shotguns are only very rarely issued in the army, and even less frequently used except for very special purposes (ie CQB breaches). There really is no standard shotgun, although there are several types in the system. The Bennelli M4 is the "new thing", but not common. The Mossberg 500 and remington 870 are out there, mostly in non combat unit use. I suspect there are still old Winchester trench guns in some unit armories too.

The truth is that shotguns see military use even more rarely than pistols. They just aren't a priority for the typical combat arms soldier, and there is very little training with them.

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When I was in the Navy, I trained with (and even carried in foreign ports during sentry watches) a Mossberg M590.


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 6:17 pm 
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The straight pull M26 under barrel accessory shotgun is being fitted with auxillary pistol grip and stock for stand alone use.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M26_Modula ... gun_System

Its about the only shotgun designed from the ground up purely for military use.

A major use of the shotgun these days is door breeching. The specialized door breech rounds require a large smoothbore to do the job.
For guard use and riot control the shotgun can fire a variety of non lethal and less than lethal rounds as well as the lethal buck shot or slug loads.

It occurred to me that in close quarter combat a load of buck shot would offer less danger to other troops wearing standard body armor than a burst of 5.56 in case a bad guy had to be taken out when good guys might be behind them and catch a few pellets by mistake.
Less chance of over penetration as well.


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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 9:26 pm 
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ISC wrote:
The Mossberg 500 and remington 870 are out there, mostly in non combat unit use. I suspect there are still old Winchester trench guns in some unit armories too.

The truth is that shotguns see military use even more rarely than pistols. They just aren't a priority for the typical combat arms soldier, and there is very little training with them.


I am in combat arms, and in my old combat arms unit we had the M500 shotgun only. My 11 Bam Bam counterparts did train with them, and issued them overseas. As tankers however, we had one per platoon.

As tankers, I used lots of pistols- but the infantry guys use more shotguns than handguns hands down.

Just food for thought :thumb:


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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 4:30 pm 
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I once saw a photo of a German tank crew in a desert setting. They were taking a lunch break under a large lean to and one of them had hung a pump shotgun on a pole within easy reach.
I never found out what model it was, I could only see that it did not have an external hammer or ventilated handguard, which suggests it was not a captured U S military weapon.
I always wondered how it got there.

I suspect it was captured from the British, but perhaps was seized from a civilian.
Only shotguns I know of in German service were the survival drillings issued to some Luftwaffe aircrews.
The Germans really despised the use of shotguns in war, officially anyway.

The British seemed to prefer the Remington autoloaders, mainly for counter insurgency work.

Many unaltered civilian hunting or trap and skeet type shotguns were used by the USAF in training aerial gunners.

There was a dual mounting of autoloading remington or browning shotguns feed from large capacity magazines or drums fieled for use on convoy protection gun trucks. those would have been devastating at close range.

A South African company once marketed a full auto belt fed 12 ga that resembled the MG34. Another devastating weapon.


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We still float around with the Mossberg 590. They don't get broke out super often but we qualify with them.


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